Dave, Crock, and all,
We agree completely. "The Crock" aka Doctor Spin as do some of the
existing ICANN "Initial" and Interim Board, do not believe in openness
as is required by the White Paper. In deed this is setting themselves
up for some serious repercussions I am sure they do not wish
to suffer....
Dave Farber wrote:
> Dave, We disagree on this issue and most likely will continue to disagree. I believe
>the ICANN, the IAB etc meetings should be open. It is the best defense for all
>concerned against anti-trust, cartel etc accusations. I happen to like the US rules
>for federal committees. EFF, ISOC and others manage to operate that way as does the
>PITAC and many other groups.
>
> Dave
>
> At 09:51 AM 3/13/99 -0800, Dave Crocker wrote:
> >At 10:03 AM 3/13/99 -0500, Dave Farber wrote:
> >>There are many cultures represented on the Interim Board . Many come from cultures
>that do not engage in open board meetings nor have legal requirements for public
>meetings to be open. If the purpose of openness is to insure visibility of the
>process then my suggestion goes a long way to PROTECTING the community with
>recognition of the attitudes of many of the Board members.
> >
> >
> >One of the cultures that does not have open decision-making meetings by the "board"
>is the IETF. The IAB, the IESG and the Nomcom do their decision work in private.
> >
> >As critics of ICANN forcefully express concern that ICANN not become a governance
>body, they are simultaneously -- and contradictorily -- pushing a particular model of
>openness which exists almost exclusively among public governance bodies.
> >
> >We have exactly one example of a global, open Internet-related decision body, and
>that is the IETF. It works quite well. Hence it is entirely reasonable for ICANN to
>emulate that style of openness pretty closely, absent solid data or arguments to the
>contrary.
> >
> >The SO's will be entirely open, just as IETF working groups are.
> >
> >The emphasis on making the ICANN board meetings entirely open is not only
>distracting us from more important matters, it is a fundamentally wrong style of
>operation for this sort of body.
> >
> >d/
> >
> >ps. And...
> >
> >>When I said many cultures represented I DID NOT mean in a democratic fashion but
>in the context of an outlook on process. Europeans have a different perspective.
> >
> >The ethnocentrism of Americans in pushing The One True Model of public decision
>making is proving to be a good way of undermining U.S. credibility. Some societies
>have more open requirements than the U.S. Many have less. They all work quite well.
> We need to appreciate the variety of ways of achieving the goal of openness.
> >
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