At 3/16/99, 07:33 PM, Esther Dyson wrote:
>THanks for the question, Jay.  
>
>We tried to address this subtly in the FAQ question about constituency
>formation, because we want to let the constituencies from themselves -
>bottom up.  But we certainly want open constituencies, in terms of point of
>view if not necessarily what the point of view is about.  That is, if a
>constituency purposely excludes one side of  a broad range of views of, say,
>registrar opinion, then there would be  some justification for a second
>constituency of registrars to  form itself.  An interest group is most
>likely better off getting its opposition to join it rather than fostering
>the creation of an opposing constituency. Thus, we encourage constituencies
>to call for members publicly, and given that the DNSO is part of ICANN, I
>would assume they can use icann-announce to do so.  


Continuing with your example, suppose the ccTLD registries
organize, but exclude second and third level sub-delegations.
According to your scenario, the excluded parties should simply 
organize (i.e. .per.nu, .com.au, etc.) and form a constituency 
of our own.  Then, we would get three appointments to the Name 
Council, instead of having to share with the rest of the ccTLDs.

Sounds good to me ;-)

Respectfully,

Jay Fenello
President, Iperdome, Inc.  
404-943-0524  http://www.iperdome.com


>On your choice of constituencies, I defer to others' comments, and to your
>own good sense.
>
>Respectfully,
>
>Esther
>
>At 10:49 AM 16/03/99 -0500, Jay Fenello wrote:
>>
>>Hello Esther,
>>
>>One of the decisions of the ICANN Board was to approve 
>>a DNSO that featured overlapping constituencies.  This 
>>creates a problem common to all constituencies, namely, 
>>where do we draw the lines.
>>
>>For example, Iperdome may desire to join the following
>>constituencies, for the following reasons:
>>
>>ccTLD registries 
>>   Iperdome is the official registry for
>>   the .per.nu domain, sub-delegated via
>>   RFC-1591
>>
>>Commercial and business entities 
>>   Iperdome is a business entity
>>
>>gTLD registries 
>>   Iperdome is a prospective gTLD registry
>>
>>ISPs and connectivity providers 
>>   Iperdome is an ISP
>>
>>Non-commercial domain name holders 
>>   Iperdome's clients are almost exclusively
>>   non-commercial domain name holders.
>>
>>Registrars 
>>   Iperdome acts as a registrar for personal
>>   domain names.
>>
>>Trademark, intellectual property, anti-counterfeiting interests 
>>   Iperdome is a trademark, and .per(sm) is a 
>>   service mark.
>>
>>My concern is that certain constituencies are 
>>attempting to form in private, behind closed 
>>doors.  This could easily result in a biased 
>>process, one that excludes legitimately 
>>interested parties.
>>
>>I hereby request that the ICANN Board clearly
>>indicate that this is not acceptable, and that 
>>any constituency wishing to be recognized by 
>>ICANN must form via an open process.
>>
>>So far, I have only seen "public" postings to
>>form the registrar and the non-commercial domain
>>name holders constituencies, yet I am aware of
>>"private" postings for the trademark and ccTLD
>>registries constituencies.
>>
>>Please clarify this situation now, before 
>>things get any worse.
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>Respectfully,
>>
>>Jay Fenello
>>President, Iperdome, Inc.  
>>404-943-0524  http://www.iperdome.com
>>
>>
>
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