Jay, Esther and all,

  And as we can see, the divisiveness continues.....

Jay Fenello wrote:

> At 3/16/99, 07:33 PM, Esther Dyson wrote:
> >THanks for the question, Jay.
> >
> >We tried to address this subtly in the FAQ question about constituency
> >formation, because we want to let the constituencies from themselves -
> >bottom up.  But we certainly want open constituencies, in terms of point of
> >view if not necessarily what the point of view is about.  That is, if a
> >constituency purposely excludes one side of  a broad range of views of, say,
> >registrar opinion, then there would be  some justification for a second
> >constituency of registrars to  form itself.  An interest group is most
> >likely better off getting its opposition to join it rather than fostering
> >the creation of an opposing constituency. Thus, we encourage constituencies
> >to call for members publicly, and given that the DNSO is part of ICANN, I
> >would assume they can use icann-announce to do so.
>
> Continuing with your example, suppose the ccTLD registries
> organize, but exclude second and third level sub-delegations.
> According to your scenario, the excluded parties should simply
> organize (i.e. .per.nu, .com.au, etc.) and form a constituency
> of our own.  Then, we would get three appointments to the Name
> Council, instead of having to share with the rest of the ccTLDs.
>
> Sounds good to me ;-)
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Jay Fenello
> President, Iperdome, Inc.
> 404-943-0524  http://www.iperdome.com
>
> >On your choice of constituencies, I defer to others' comments, and to your
> >own good sense.
> >
> >Respectfully,
> >
> >Esther
> >
> >At 10:49 AM 16/03/99 -0500, Jay Fenello wrote:
> >>
> >>Hello Esther,
> >>
> >>One of the decisions of the ICANN Board was to approve
> >>a DNSO that featured overlapping constituencies.  This
> >>creates a problem common to all constituencies, namely,
> >>where do we draw the lines.
> >>
> >>For example, Iperdome may desire to join the following
> >>constituencies, for the following reasons:
> >>
> >>ccTLD registries
> >>   Iperdome is the official registry for
> >>   the .per.nu domain, sub-delegated via
> >>   RFC-1591
> >>
> >>Commercial and business entities
> >>   Iperdome is a business entity
> >>
> >>gTLD registries
> >>   Iperdome is a prospective gTLD registry
> >>
> >>ISPs and connectivity providers
> >>   Iperdome is an ISP
> >>
> >>Non-commercial domain name holders
> >>   Iperdome's clients are almost exclusively
> >>   non-commercial domain name holders.
> >>
> >>Registrars
> >>   Iperdome acts as a registrar for personal
> >>   domain names.
> >>
> >>Trademark, intellectual property, anti-counterfeiting interests
> >>   Iperdome is a trademark, and .per(sm) is a
> >>   service mark.
> >>
> >>My concern is that certain constituencies are
> >>attempting to form in private, behind closed
> >>doors.  This could easily result in a biased
> >>process, one that excludes legitimately
> >>interested parties.
> >>
> >>I hereby request that the ICANN Board clearly
> >>indicate that this is not acceptable, and that
> >>any constituency wishing to be recognized by
> >>ICANN must form via an open process.
> >>
> >>So far, I have only seen "public" postings to
> >>form the registrar and the non-commercial domain
> >>name holders constituencies, yet I am aware of
> >>"private" postings for the trademark and ccTLD
> >>registries constituencies.
> >>
> >>Please clarify this situation now, before
> >>things get any worse.
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >>
> >>Respectfully,
> >>
> >>Jay Fenello
> >>President, Iperdome, Inc.
> >>404-943-0524  http://www.iperdome.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >Esther Dyson                   Always make new mistakes!
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Regards,

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