Seems to me any effort to work within ICANN
to acheive "network democracy" is innately an
act of self-deception, continuing the public lie
that ICANN is a legitimate government. It isn't.
There has never been a public vote to privatise
our public Internet. There has never been a public
vote to grant any governance power to ICANN. The
emperor is clothed in a fabric of veiled delusions.
I still advocate a global Internet constitution, so we
have a governmewnt of laws not committees.
Ken Freed
Media Visions Journal
http://www.media-visions.com
"Deep literacy makes global sense"
>(fixed)
>
>>Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 08:21:30 -0500
>>From: "ooblick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: Re: Why wake up? (Re: [IFWP] Is this list up? (Test, ignore,
>>sorry))
>>To: "Dan Steinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>Hear hear. So i am going on vacation. The fix was in from the get go
>>and all we were was pawns to lend legitimacy to their fabricated claims
>>of consensus.
>>
>>See you next week. I'm going diving.
>>>---- Original Message ---
>>>From: Dan Steinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Cc:
>>>Subject: Re: Why wake up? (Re: [IFWP] Is this list up? (Test, ignore,
>>>sorry))
>>>
>>>Well to counter your argument I would say that I went to IFWP meetings
>>>all over
>>>the globe, went to an ICANN meeting or two. I worked on the at-large
>>>issue in
>>>good faith in the first Membership Advisory Committee. I believe I was
>>>very awake
>>>during the entire process, with gusts to diligent. What did all that
>>>work get?
>>>not much I think. I am not funded to work on lost causes. Those that go to
>>>Montevideo are funded to act and more than a couple of them will have a
>>>pre-set
>>>agenda. Unless you want to fund everyone on this list to show up and make a
>>>presence felt, I think sleeping is the more economical course.
>>>
>>>Marc Schneiders wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why we should wake up fast? Quite a few people are on their way to
>>>> Montevideo right now. A couple of them may try to determine a lot of
>>>> things on their own there without real input from those affected. The
>>>> ALSC preliminary report leaves not much hope for a change to the
>>>> better. Now, if it would be a good, thorough, well argued report, in
>>>> whi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
> "But at the end of the day, even if you put a calico dress on
> it and call it Florence, a pig is still a pig."
> -- Bradshaw v. Unity Marine Corp. et al., 2001 U.S. Dist.
> LEXIS 8962, (S. D. Tex., 2001).
>
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