Little late for me to enter this thread, but I'll throw a REBOL employee
response into the mix prior to Carl's.
I strongly believe Elan's excitement (and others) for View is well-placed. Carl and
some of the team were pounding away until the wee early morning hours today getting
View working...it really will be ready soon :-) Actually, the need to provide you
with a bunch of decent examples to get everyone off on the right foot is our biggest
gating factor, but there are already more than 20 and many more to come.
As for jb and other's demand for Command and web application needs, they are also
valid and not forgotten. We have a number of modules that are quite close, but in
addition to final testing and packaging, are held up until we make some strategic
decisions and free up some resources...rest assured, everyone's feedback on this list
and through direct emails are being considered in our decision-making and we will
actively solicit your viewpoints going forward.
Hope this helps clarify things a little! dan
.At 09:56 AM 1/20/00 -0600, you wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Whether the beta ships this week or next week, let us not lose from
>> sight, what it is that we are talking about. We are not talking
>> about extending REBOL with a GUI interface!
>>
>> We are talking about adding REBOL to GUI applications. GUI
>> applications become programmable in REBOL! This is GUI applications
>> with Internet processing programmable in REBOL! This is Internet
>> applications with GUIs programmable in REBOL! Big difference!
>>
> ...
>>
>> There are millions and millions of people out there, who are
>> comfortable with a mouse and who expect that they can start up an
>> application and make choices from menus in order to accomplish
>> their tasks. These people will be able to use our scripts.
>> This is important!
>>
>
>It's really too bad that experienced users like Elan have become
>so jaded that they can't get excited about the future of REBOL...
>
>;-}
>
>Seriously, I think Elan's right on target about the importance of
>GUI capabilities to the great masses. Those of us that are happy
>with a text-based interaction (or who write server scripts, etc.)
>are definitely in the minority. As long as we are writing code
>just for ourselves to use, or to be hidden in a server somewhere,
>text mode is fine. However, if I want to write scripts for non-
>technical human users, I want the tools to make it easy for them
>to appreciate the beauty of my work! ;-)
>
>I think there's a significant market for REBOL code which will
>only open up when T. C. Mits can drive it with pretty pictures.
>
>-jn-
>
>P.S.: The prospect of early availability of REBOL/View only
>increases my desire for comprehensive docs. Please, please,
>please, please....