I think if you were to go along the route John Bidwell has done in his
mountain bike component electric bike, he redesigned the frame to
handle a higher output motor, and of course lowered the expected top
speed to I think 45. Now if you took that lightweight design and the
proportionally smaller/lighter battery pack and did a fairing as
Vetter describes I think you would see some gains if the vehicle spent
most of its time in the >30 mph range.

Jeff

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:43 PM, john fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been thinking through an ultra-lightweight project and I think the 
> aero has a much greater effect than you are
>  implying here. In fact you can get substantial improvements over an unfaired 
> chassis even at bicycle speeds. Just try
>  riding your bike into a headwind for example.
>
>  Trying to figure out which body work is better is much much harder, and may 
> require experimentation or very
>  sophisticated CFD software. Its way beyond me at any rate. I figure if you 
> can get 80% there by copying known successful
>  designs, thats good enough for a low-budget project. The electrathon designs 
> are proven, for example.
>
>  Now for two-wheels, I think its very different. You can get in real trouble 
> trying a so-called dustbin fairing. I'd
>  probably go with a race fairing and close up the holes. Bikes just have 
> terrible aerodynamics.
>
>  try these calculators for a rough idea of the advantages
>  http://www.geocities.com/hempev/EVCalculator.html?200629
>  http://www.evconvert.com/tools/evcalc/
>  http://www.kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm
>
>  HTH
>  John
>
>  damon henry wrote:
>  > It seems to me the changes should be proportional. ....
>
>

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