Charles, We need someone to archive and organize your great writings. Yes, we should all unite to support this great technology, the electric vehicle. I only try to keep track of someone's political orientation so I will not offend them. Didn't I get Paul's wrong? That's ok. He is pro EV. He understands. I am focusing on connecting with people to try to get an A 123 kit to get our Prius converted to a plug-in for this trip this summer through Florida. One day I will convert a vehicle (or get it converted) to total electric. There is not time right now. I sure hope many of you are planning to take part when we make it to your area. Also, some of you are much more experienced about EV presentations than I am. I have only given one and coordinated another. So advise away, please, as this time draws nearer. I certainly appreciate it! Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fran Sullivan-Fahs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day
> Fran, > > I wholeheartedly agree with you. I have never seen EVs as a partisan > political issue and don't believe it is or rightly can be characterized > that > way. Of the hundreds of people I know who drive EVs, work in the EV > industry, etc., it's amazing how fairly evenly split they are between > Democrats and Republicans. And it's also amazing how polite and courteous > they all toward each other and how civil the discourse is between them > all, > even the somewhat more politically-tending discourse. There's a good > reason > for that. It's because EVs are the one thing that unites us all -- > Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Libertarians, Independents, third parties, > etc. I myself am an Independent and am not a partisan political type. > But > I have always exercised my right to vote, which I feel is an important > civic > duty and responsibility. And I am interested in getting involved in the > political process for the purpose of advocating and promoting our cause -- > EVs. In particular, I am interested, willing, and passionate about > actively > supporting any politician, of whatever stripe or party (it doesn't matter > and makes no difference to me), who supports EVs. In this campaign > season, > I am actively supporting, and financially contributing to, two politicians > (in both of whose respective voting districts I live) who are EV > supporters -- one a Democrat, Paul Renneisen for Congress in Florida's > 22nd > District, and the other a Republican, my state representative, Adam > Hasner, > who has long been and continues to be the leader and strongest supporter > of > Alternative Fuel initiatives in the Florida State House of > Representatives. > I am extremely impressed with Rep. Hasner, whom I met in Tallahassee last > week, and his knowledge of and passion for EVs. He and his wife both > drive > hybrids back at home here in the district, in Boca Raton. It turns out > that Rep. Hasner has got some key inside connections at Tesla and knows a > lot more than I do about what's going on inside Tesla. Adam is a big EV > fan > and enthusiast. > > This EV thing has never been a Democrat vs. Republican partisan issue. It > is far too important and critical to our nation's future than that. > Smart, > intelligent, knowledgeable, well-informed politicians like Democrat Paul > Renneisen and Republican Adam Hasner recognize that and the fact that this > is a *national* issue that is way above petty partisan politics. I can > tell > you from knowing and working with both of them, that smart, savvy > Democrats > like Paul Renneisen and smart, savvy Republicans like Adam Hasner have a > lot > more in common than they do that separates them. We are all in this > struggle together -- Democrats, Republicans, Libertariains, Greens, and > Independents -- first and foremost as AMERICANS!!! > > There is, quite unfortunately, one particular EV discussion list where > there > are a sizeable number of people who lack the education, intellect, > intelligence, and maturity to discuss political issues surrounding EVs in > a > civil, courteous manner without the discussion degenerating into personal > insults, attacks, and flame wars. I am very happy and proud that we here > in > the Florida EAA have never had such problems and that we all exhibit the > kind of maturity and intelligence to engage in civil discussion. Having > said that, I do however think it is probably a waste of our time and > bandwidth, and basically irrelevant to us, to engage in any kind of > extended > political discussions that stray off topic from EVs. But on the other > hand, > I do think it's appropriate and relevant to our FLEAA discussion list to > at > least acknowledge those politicians in our state, like Democrat Paul > Renneisen and Republicans Adam Hasner and Lee Constantine, who are > enthusiastic EV supporters. One may or may not vote for any one of them > due > to other, unrelated issues, which we need not discuss here, but I think we > all support their respective championing of the EV & Alt. Fuel cause and > thank them for their contributions in that field. I myself never voted > for > President George W. Bush, because I have always differed with him on too > many important issues, but I am grateful to President Bush for having > repeatedly admonished the American people several times for "our nation's > addiction to foreign oil". I acknowledge the important contribution > President Bush has made in advancing our cause by highlighting this issue > to > the American people. There are always reasonable and balanced ways for us > to discuss these things with a modicum of discretion, respect, and by > sticking to the central issue of EVs. > > Charles Whalen > Delray Beach > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fran Sullivan-Fahs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day > > Charles, I am just speaking as a member (and a new one at that), but I > don' > t see how any of us can object to an Ev person who is running for Congress > getting a little support from us. If there is anything we can do up in > Tally > Town to help, Paul, please let us know. And that helping hand extends > across > party lines! (It's about time for more of that, don't you think?) Fran > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Paul Renneisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day > >> Paul, >> >> First, I can't tell you how happy I am that all of us working together -- >> you, me, David Turock, and Andrew Roddy, and even Chelsea Sexton behind >> the >> scenes -- succeeded in getting you back up and running, back on the road >> and >> the campaign trail with David's RAV4-EV! It was truly a team effort that >> exemplies the best spirit of cooperation, collaboration, and camaraderie >> in >> our EV community! >> >> It's interesting to hear that the GM Gen 2+ charger is doing a better job >> of >> charging David's RAV4-EV, giving it a better and fuller charge, resulting >> in >> greater range, than his TAL did. I have often heard California RAV4-EV >> drivers talk about how much better the GM Gen 2+ charger is than the TAL, >> but I was never sure about it myself. I have a Gen 2+ charger installed >> at >> Grassroots EV in Fort Pierce that I have used many times, without >> problem, >> and it does an excellent job of charging. >> >> Second, as for it (that GM Gen 2+ charger that I left down there at >> David's >> place) being "MY" unit, as you referred to it, well, that *was* the case, >> but you and David are now the proud owners of that unit, as David has >> just >> bought it from me ... (at my cost, I might add; I have never made a >> profit >> on EVers on don't intend to). If you ever have any trouble with that >> unit, >> like if it malfunctions, stops working, whatever, just let me know, and I >> will replace it with another one, free of charge. >> >> Paul, since you live in the southern part of Florida's 22nd Congressional >> District (that you are campaigning for), I know that you are be able to >> get >> around to campaign events down there in all of Broward County without >> needing an intermediate opportunity charge enroute, as long as you leave >> home on a full charge. And that is even true for destinations in >> southern >> Palm Beach County. But for you to be able to drive the RAV4-EV to >> campaign >> events and destinations in the northern part of your district, Florida >> 22nd >> Congressional District, which basically is northern Palm Beach County, we >> are going to have to get you familiar with the few charging sites we've >> got >> in Delray Beach, West Palm Beach, and Palm Beach, where you will need to >> opportunity charge enroute in order to make it all the way up there and >> back >> home. >> >> Here are two charging sites, one in Delray Beach, and another in West >> Palm >> Beach: >> >> 1935 SW 35th Ave. >> Delray Beach, FL 33445 >> Contact: Charles Whalen >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Tel: 561-638-6881 >> 14-50, 40A/240V >> TAL small-paddle inductive >> Outside at driveway >> Access: 7am-9pm, 7 days a week, other times by prior arrangement >> Lat/Long coordinates: 26.43640100 -80.10820000 >> >> 119 Datura Street >> West Palm Beach, FL 33401 >> 10-30, 50A/208V >> 10-30, 60A/208V >> Outside at rear, northeast corner of building, facing parking lot >> Access: 24x7 >> Lat/Long coordinates: 26.712169 -80.049569 >> >> The one in Delray Beach is at my house. Although I have listed access as >> 7am-9pm, since I know you well and am an enthusiastic supporter of your >> campaign, you are obviously welcome to stop by here and charge at my >> place >> anytime you need to, 24x7, without any prior arrangement or calling >> ahead. >> You are always welcome here. My TAL is outside at the driveway. All you >> have to do is to pull up the driveway and plug the TAL into your >> RAV4-EV's >> charge port. >> >> The charging site on Datura Street in West Palm Beach is in a parking lot >> just off of Clematis (on the south side of Clematis), near the end of >> Clematis, across the street from the public library there, and >> immediately >> adjacent to E.R. Bradley's Saloon & Restaurant, behind the restaurant. >> (Great outdoor restaurant, by the way!) You have a 10-30 plug on the end >> of >> the 50-foot charging cable that I have lent you, so you can plug into >> either >> of those two 10-30 outlets there. But you should first go into that shop >> at >> 119 Datura Street (if it is during business hours) and ask them for >> permission to charge from those outlets on the back of the building in >> the >> parking lot behind the shop. >> >> By the way, as for charging at my house, as I recall, last year I >> measured >> (on Mapquest), and subsequently verified by driving it, the distance from >> my >> house to FAU Jupiter to be 35 miles. So 35 miles out and 35 miles back >> gives a round-trip of 70 miles. That doesn't leave a whole lot of >> mileage >> for Ride 'n Drive demos up there at this event at FAU Jupiter. I >> attended >> this specific event last year and decided that to be safe and leave >> myself >> plenty of margin, I would limit any Ride 'n Drive demos to 10 miles, so >> as >> to keep my total out-and-back mileage to no more than 80 miles. (Even >> though the car has a range of 120 miles, I like to be safe and limit my >> legs >> between charges to no more than 85 miles, or 95 miles at the most, as I >> did >> on one occasion when I took a detour to give Matt Graham a ride back home >> to >> Hobe Sound from Fort Pierce.) So that's what I did at this event at FAU >> Jupiter last year. >> >> There are two other charging locations in West Palm Beach and Palm Beach, >> respectively, that are not yet on my charging station list (which I >> *still* >> have *yet* to get up on a website ... forever the worst procrastinator, I >> am!). >> >> The first one, in West Palm Beach, is Paul Liddle's house, the guy who >> operates the EVPorsche.com business, which, by the way, I hear is going >> gangbusters (which is apparently why we don't hear from him much, because >> he >> is so busy filling orders and delivering EVs; congratulations Paul!). >> >> Here is Paul's address and contact info: >> >> Paul Liddle >> 1288 Glen Road >> West Palm Beach, FL 33406 >> tel: 561-301-2369 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> This location, Paul's house, is just a half-mile south of Southern Blvd., >> just a quarter-mile west of I-95. This would make a perfect enroute >> charging site for you. Paul Liddle and I have discussed installing an >> outside 50A 240V outlet and putting it on our charging station list, >> which >> Paul said he'd be willing to do, but we haven't gotten around to doing it >> yet. Paul is a great guy, a very enthusiastic EVer, and very welcoming >> and >> accommodating to all EVers. I have charged at his house many times, and >> so >> has Andrew Roddy. >> >> But all of Paul's outlets are inside his garage at present. So you need >> to >> call ahead and make prior arrangements to charge there when Paul will be >> there. He is there most of the time, other than when he is away on >> business >> travel, as he operates his EV business out of his enormous (Jay Leno >> size) >> garage. I forget exactly what type of receptacles Paul has for 240V >> outlets. You need to check him on that. You (Paul Renneisen) have >> currently got the ability to plug into 10-30, 14-50, and 14-30 >> receptacles. >> If Paul Liddle has different types of receptacles for his 50A 240V >> outlets, >> then you will need to stop by my place and pick up the appropriate plug >> adaptor, as I have adaptors for every type of 240V receptacle known to >> man. >> :-) >> >> As for distances, it's 22 miles from your (Paul Renneisen's) house to my >> house in Delray Beach. >> It's 19 miles from my house in Delray Beach to Paul Liddle's house in >> West >> Palm Beach. >> And as I said, it's 35 miles from my house in Delray Beach to FAU >> Jupiter. >> So it's probably about 16 miles from Paul Liddle's house in West Palm >> Beach >> to FAU Jupiter. >> >> Finally, the last possibility for a charging site is Andrew Roddy's house >> in >> Palm Beach: >> >> Andrew Roddy >> 231 Kenlyn Road >> Palm Beach, FL 33480 >> tel: 561-848-3781 >> cell: 561-632-8378 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> The only inconvenience I see with Andrew's house is that he lives on the >> far >> north end of Palm Beach island, so after charging, you'd have to double >> back >> and go all the way back down south to Royal Poinciana Way to get off the >> island, over the bridge into downtown West Palm Beach, and then back to >> I-95. >> >> I know that Andrew has got a 50A 240V outlet, but I don't know whether >> it's >> outside at the driveway or inside his garage, and I don't know what the >> receptacle type is. So here again, you would need to contact and >> pre-arrange any charging opportunity there with Andrew, find out what >> type >> of receptacle he's got, and then if you need an adaptor for that type of >> receptacle, stop by my place here and I'll lend you the appropriate >> adaptor >> plug. >> >> Glad to hear that the campaign is going well and fundraising is picking >> up. >> >> Let me know if there is anything else I can do. >> >> Hope this is not getting too political for this list. I know we're not >> supposed to discuss politics here. So if I've way overstepped the bounds >> (probably have), let me know. It's just very exciting to have as one of >> our >> members, and one of our most enthusiastic members at that, the first EV >> driver in the history of this country to run for Congress! I've got this >> stuff in my blood as my father was a 6-term Congressman from Ohio, and >> the >> first Republican Member of Congress to come out against the Vietnam War. >> (Oh well, I hope at least *that* is not controversial or too political >> anymore, being ancient history from 40 years ago.) >> >> Best regards, >> >> Charles Whalen >> Director of Public Charging Infrastructure >> Florida EAA >> Delray Beach, FL >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paul Renneisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" >> <[email protected]> >> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 4:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day >> >> Charles, >> First, >> >> I want to tell you how your efforts made a major difference for another >> FLEAA member. David Turock's RAV4 is charging with an extra 10-20 miles. >> Why? I don't know. But your examination and evaluation of the Magne >> Charger at 3121 NE 57th Court, NOW BACK IN SERVICE, with YOUR unit, shows >> that the type used by David is at least different in amount of charge it >> stores. Obviously less. >> >> Two, I want you to know that I can make the event described below with >> David Turock's RAV4 EV. It WILL REQUIRE CHARGING EN ROUTE. Can we use >> your station or do you recommend another? >> >> I will have to leave early for a campaign event in Deer field on the way >> back. It starts at 7:30 PM. >> >> Several folks in Palm Beach have now followed up with checking the web >> site and making contributions. >> >> I look forward to seeing if they come through. >> >> We are making daily, if not hourly, successes in this campaign for >> Congress in the 22nd District. Mail or Act Blue contributions, either >> way, it is time for folks to join in. >> >> Let me know if we can charge en route. I will notify the school upon >> your >> reply. >> >> The Southern Power chargers are vastly superior in performance to the >> type >> that David Turock is using. >> >> For peace and prosperity, >> PAUL RENNEISEN >> www.Renneisen2008.com >> >> >> >> Hi all, >>> >>> I just got this invitation, which I want to pass along to you all, from >>> FAU >>> Jupiter Enviro Club President, Sarah Fannin, for any Florida EAA members >> who >>> can make it, to exhibit their EVs at FAU Jupiter's 3rd Annual >>> Environmental >>> Awareness Day, on Thursday, April 17th from 3-7pm. I have let Sarah >> know >>> that I myself can't make it due to other commitments, but hopefully one >> of >>> you, maybe someone near Jupiter, can make it there to show your EV. We >> have >>> done a number of events at and with FAU Jupiter and have a good >>> relationship >>> with both the university adminstration and the Enviro Club there. We've >> worked with Sarah on events in the past that have turned out well, >> including >>> a showing of WKtEC last year with both Chelsea Sexton and Chris Paine. >>> >>> If you would be interested in attending this event, please contact FAU >> Jupiter Enviro Club President Sarah Fannin directly at: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED], and she can send you more information, including >>> the >>> flyer for the event, which I can also send you by email, if you're >> interested in attending. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Charles Whalen >>> Florida EAA >>> Delray Beach, FL >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Sarah Fannin [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: Charles Whalen >>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:01 PM >>> Subject: FAU Environment Awareness Day >>> >>> Charles, >>> >>> On behalf of the FAU Enviro Club, I'd like to invite you and your >> organization to participate in our third annual Environment Awareness >> Day >>> on >>> Thursday, April 17th from 3-7pm on our campus here in Jupiter. >>> >>> The point of the event is to showcase environmentally oriented >>> organizations, businesses, and anything else in our area to our >> university >>> community. >>> >>> For FLEAA specifically, we were wondering if you'd like to do another >> electric car test drive. Everyone absolutely LOVED it the last time we >> did >>> it. >>> >>> We'd love to have you there. >>> >>> I've attached a participation flier for you to fill out if you're >> interested. >>> >>> Please let me know if you have any questions. >>> >>> We're looking forward to hearing from you! >>> >>> Sarah Fannin >>> FAU Enviro Club President >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Florida EAA mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.floridaeaa.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Florida EAA mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.floridaeaa.org >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 > 7:53 AM > > _______________________________________________ Florida EAA mailing list [email protected] http://www.floridaeaa.org
