Of the presidential candidates Hillary seem to be the most ardent supporter of EV's, Battery Technology, etc. She is willing to put the support of the Federal Government behind companies making EV's and rebates to those who purchase. You are all correct though about the individual candidates not their party. Imagine if Bush had not declared himself the winner where we would be with Al Gore at the helm. We would all be driving EV's already and charging them with rooftop solar and wind turbines. Take Care TED ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fran Sullivan-Fahs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day
> Fran, > > I wholeheartedly agree with you. I have never seen EVs as a partisan > political issue and don't believe it is or rightly can be characterized > that > way. Of the hundreds of people I know who drive EVs, work in the EV > industry, etc., it's amazing how fairly evenly split they are between > Democrats and Republicans. And it's also amazing how polite and courteous > they all toward each other and how civil the discourse is between them > all, > even the somewhat more politically-tending discourse. There's a good > reason > for that. It's because EVs are the one thing that unites us all -- > Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Libertarians, Independents, third parties, > etc. I myself am an Independent and am not a partisan political type. > But > I have always exercised my right to vote, which I feel is an important > civic > duty and responsibility. And I am interested in getting involved in the > political process for the purpose of advocating and promoting our cause -- > EVs. In particular, I am interested, willing, and passionate about > actively > supporting any politician, of whatever stripe or party (it doesn't matter > and makes no difference to me), who supports EVs. In this campaign > season, > I am actively supporting, and financially contributing to, two politicians > (in both of whose respective voting districts I live) who are EV > supporters -- one a Democrat, Paul Renneisen for Congress in Florida's > 22nd > District, and the other a Republican, my state representative, Adam > Hasner, > who has long been and continues to be the leader and strongest supporter > of > Alternative Fuel initiatives in the Florida State House of > Representatives. > I am extremely impressed with Rep. Hasner, whom I met in Tallahassee last > week, and his knowledge of and passion for EVs. He and his wife both > drive > hybrids back at home here in the district, in Boca Raton. It turns out > that Rep. Hasner has got some key inside connections at Tesla and knows a > lot more than I do about what's going on inside Tesla. Adam is a big EV > fan > and enthusiast. > > This EV thing has never been a Democrat vs. Republican partisan issue. It > is far too important and critical to our nation's future than that. > Smart, > intelligent, knowledgeable, well-informed politicians like Democrat Paul > Renneisen and Republican Adam Hasner recognize that and the fact that this > is a *national* issue that is way above petty partisan politics. I can > tell > you from knowing and working with both of them, that smart, savvy > Democrats > like Paul Renneisen and smart, savvy Republicans like Adam Hasner have a > lot > more in common than they do that separates them. We are all in this > struggle together -- Democrats, Republicans, Libertariains, Greens, and > Independents -- first and foremost as AMERICANS!!! > > There is, quite unfortunately, one particular EV discussion list where > there > are a sizeable number of people who lack the education, intellect, > intelligence, and maturity to discuss political issues surrounding EVs in > a > civil, courteous manner without the discussion degenerating into personal > insults, attacks, and flame wars. I am very happy and proud that we here > in > the Florida EAA have never had such problems and that we all exhibit the > kind of maturity and intelligence to engage in civil discussion. Having > said that, I do however think it is probably a waste of our time and > bandwidth, and basically irrelevant to us, to engage in any kind of > extended > political discussions that stray off topic from EVs. But on the other > hand, > I do think it's appropriate and relevant to our FLEAA discussion list to > at > least acknowledge those politicians in our state, like Democrat Paul > Renneisen and Republicans Adam Hasner and Lee Constantine, who are > enthusiastic EV supporters. One may or may not vote for any one of them > due > to other, unrelated issues, which we need not discuss here, but I think we > all support their respective championing of the EV & Alt. Fuel cause and > thank them for their contributions in that field. I myself never voted > for > President George W. Bush, because I have always differed with him on too > many important issues, but I am grateful to President Bush for having > repeatedly admonished the American people several times for "our nation's > addiction to foreign oil". I acknowledge the important contribution > President Bush has made in advancing our cause by highlighting this issue > to > the American people. There are always reasonable and balanced ways for us > to discuss these things with a modicum of discretion, respect, and by > sticking to the central issue of EVs. > > Charles Whalen > Delray Beach > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fran Sullivan-Fahs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day > > Charles, I am just speaking as a member (and a new one at that), but I > don' > t see how any of us can object to an Ev person who is running for Congress > getting a little support from us. If there is anything we can do up in > Tally > Town to help, Paul, please let us know. And that helping hand extends > across > party lines! (It's about time for more of that, don't you think?) Fran > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Paul Renneisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day > >> Paul, >> >> First, I can't tell you how happy I am that all of us working together -- >> you, me, David Turock, and Andrew Roddy, and even Chelsea Sexton behind >> the >> scenes -- succeeded in getting you back up and running, back on the road >> and >> the campaign trail with David's RAV4-EV! It was truly a team effort that >> exemplies the best spirit of cooperation, collaboration, and camaraderie >> in >> our EV community! >> >> It's interesting to hear that the GM Gen 2+ charger is doing a better job >> of >> charging David's RAV4-EV, giving it a better and fuller charge, resulting >> in >> greater range, than his TAL did. I have often heard California RAV4-EV >> drivers talk about how much better the GM Gen 2+ charger is than the TAL, >> but I was never sure about it myself. I have a Gen 2+ charger installed >> at >> Grassroots EV in Fort Pierce that I have used many times, without >> problem, >> and it does an excellent job of charging. >> >> Second, as for it (that GM Gen 2+ charger that I left down there at >> David's >> place) being "MY" unit, as you referred to it, well, that *was* the case, >> but you and David are now the proud owners of that unit, as David has >> just >> bought it from me ... (at my cost, I might add; I have never made a >> profit >> on EVers on don't intend to). If you ever have any trouble with that >> unit, >> like if it malfunctions, stops working, whatever, just let me know, and I >> will replace it with another one, free of charge. >> >> Paul, since you live in the southern part of Florida's 22nd Congressional >> District (that you are campaigning for), I know that you are be able to >> get >> around to campaign events down there in all of Broward County without >> needing an intermediate opportunity charge enroute, as long as you leave >> home on a full charge. And that is even true for destinations in >> southern >> Palm Beach County. But for you to be able to drive the RAV4-EV to >> campaign >> events and destinations in the northern part of your district, Florida >> 22nd >> Congressional District, which basically is northern Palm Beach County, we >> are going to have to get you familiar with the few charging sites we've >> got >> in Delray Beach, West Palm Beach, and Palm Beach, where you will need to >> opportunity charge enroute in order to make it all the way up there and >> back >> home. >> >> Here are two charging sites, one in Delray Beach, and another in West >> Palm >> Beach: >> >> 1935 SW 35th Ave. >> Delray Beach, FL 33445 >> Contact: Charles Whalen >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Tel: 561-638-6881 >> 14-50, 40A/240V >> TAL small-paddle inductive >> Outside at driveway >> Access: 7am-9pm, 7 days a week, other times by prior arrangement >> Lat/Long coordinates: 26.43640100 -80.10820000 >> >> 119 Datura Street >> West Palm Beach, FL 33401 >> 10-30, 50A/208V >> 10-30, 60A/208V >> Outside at rear, northeast corner of building, facing parking lot >> Access: 24x7 >> Lat/Long coordinates: 26.712169 -80.049569 >> >> The one in Delray Beach is at my house. Although I have listed access as >> 7am-9pm, since I know you well and am an enthusiastic supporter of your >> campaign, you are obviously welcome to stop by here and charge at my >> place >> anytime you need to, 24x7, without any prior arrangement or calling >> ahead. >> You are always welcome here. My TAL is outside at the driveway. All you >> have to do is to pull up the driveway and plug the TAL into your >> RAV4-EV's >> charge port. >> >> The charging site on Datura Street in West Palm Beach is in a parking lot >> just off of Clematis (on the south side of Clematis), near the end of >> Clematis, across the street from the public library there, and >> immediately >> adjacent to E.R. Bradley's Saloon & Restaurant, behind the restaurant. >> (Great outdoor restaurant, by the way!) You have a 10-30 plug on the end >> of >> the 50-foot charging cable that I have lent you, so you can plug into >> either >> of those two 10-30 outlets there. But you should first go into that shop >> at >> 119 Datura Street (if it is during business hours) and ask them for >> permission to charge from those outlets on the back of the building in >> the >> parking lot behind the shop. >> >> By the way, as for charging at my house, as I recall, last year I >> measured >> (on Mapquest), and subsequently verified by driving it, the distance from >> my >> house to FAU Jupiter to be 35 miles. So 35 miles out and 35 miles back >> gives a round-trip of 70 miles. That doesn't leave a whole lot of >> mileage >> for Ride 'n Drive demos up there at this event at FAU Jupiter. I >> attended >> this specific event last year and decided that to be safe and leave >> myself >> plenty of margin, I would limit any Ride 'n Drive demos to 10 miles, so >> as >> to keep my total out-and-back mileage to no more than 80 miles. (Even >> though the car has a range of 120 miles, I like to be safe and limit my >> legs >> between charges to no more than 85 miles, or 95 miles at the most, as I >> did >> on one occasion when I took a detour to give Matt Graham a ride back home >> to >> Hobe Sound from Fort Pierce.) So that's what I did at this event at FAU >> Jupiter last year. >> >> There are two other charging locations in West Palm Beach and Palm Beach, >> respectively, that are not yet on my charging station list (which I >> *still* >> have *yet* to get up on a website ... forever the worst procrastinator, I >> am!). >> >> The first one, in West Palm Beach, is Paul Liddle's house, the guy who >> operates the EVPorsche.com business, which, by the way, I hear is going >> gangbusters (which is apparently why we don't hear from him much, because >> he >> is so busy filling orders and delivering EVs; congratulations Paul!). >> >> Here is Paul's address and contact info: >> >> Paul Liddle >> 1288 Glen Road >> West Palm Beach, FL 33406 >> tel: 561-301-2369 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> This location, Paul's house, is just a half-mile south of Southern Blvd., >> just a quarter-mile west of I-95. This would make a perfect enroute >> charging site for you. Paul Liddle and I have discussed installing an >> outside 50A 240V outlet and putting it on our charging station list, >> which >> Paul said he'd be willing to do, but we haven't gotten around to doing it >> yet. Paul is a great guy, a very enthusiastic EVer, and very welcoming >> and >> accommodating to all EVers. I have charged at his house many times, and >> so >> has Andrew Roddy. >> >> But all of Paul's outlets are inside his garage at present. So you need >> to >> call ahead and make prior arrangements to charge there when Paul will be >> there. He is there most of the time, other than when he is away on >> business >> travel, as he operates his EV business out of his enormous (Jay Leno >> size) >> garage. I forget exactly what type of receptacles Paul has for 240V >> outlets. You need to check him on that. You (Paul Renneisen) have >> currently got the ability to plug into 10-30, 14-50, and 14-30 >> receptacles. >> If Paul Liddle has different types of receptacles for his 50A 240V >> outlets, >> then you will need to stop by my place and pick up the appropriate plug >> adaptor, as I have adaptors for every type of 240V receptacle known to >> man. >> :-) >> >> As for distances, it's 22 miles from your (Paul Renneisen's) house to my >> house in Delray Beach. >> It's 19 miles from my house in Delray Beach to Paul Liddle's house in >> West >> Palm Beach. >> And as I said, it's 35 miles from my house in Delray Beach to FAU >> Jupiter. >> So it's probably about 16 miles from Paul Liddle's house in West Palm >> Beach >> to FAU Jupiter. >> >> Finally, the last possibility for a charging site is Andrew Roddy's house >> in >> Palm Beach: >> >> Andrew Roddy >> 231 Kenlyn Road >> Palm Beach, FL 33480 >> tel: 561-848-3781 >> cell: 561-632-8378 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> The only inconvenience I see with Andrew's house is that he lives on the >> far >> north end of Palm Beach island, so after charging, you'd have to double >> back >> and go all the way back down south to Royal Poinciana Way to get off the >> island, over the bridge into downtown West Palm Beach, and then back to >> I-95. >> >> I know that Andrew has got a 50A 240V outlet, but I don't know whether >> it's >> outside at the driveway or inside his garage, and I don't know what the >> receptacle type is. So here again, you would need to contact and >> pre-arrange any charging opportunity there with Andrew, find out what >> type >> of receptacle he's got, and then if you need an adaptor for that type of >> receptacle, stop by my place here and I'll lend you the appropriate >> adaptor >> plug. >> >> Glad to hear that the campaign is going well and fundraising is picking >> up. >> >> Let me know if there is anything else I can do. >> >> Hope this is not getting too political for this list. I know we're not >> supposed to discuss politics here. So if I've way overstepped the bounds >> (probably have), let me know. It's just very exciting to have as one of >> our >> members, and one of our most enthusiastic members at that, the first EV >> driver in the history of this country to run for Congress! I've got this >> stuff in my blood as my father was a 6-term Congressman from Ohio, and >> the >> first Republican Member of Congress to come out against the Vietnam War. >> (Oh well, I hope at least *that* is not controversial or too political >> anymore, being ancient history from 40 years ago.) >> >> Best regards, >> >> Charles Whalen >> Director of Public Charging Infrastructure >> Florida EAA >> Delray Beach, FL >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paul Renneisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" >> <[email protected]> >> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 4:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day >> >> Charles, >> First, >> >> I want to tell you how your efforts made a major difference for another >> FLEAA member. David Turock's RAV4 is charging with an extra 10-20 miles. >> Why? I don't know. But your examination and evaluation of the Magne >> Charger at 3121 NE 57th Court, NOW BACK IN SERVICE, with YOUR unit, shows >> that the type used by David is at least different in amount of charge it >> stores. Obviously less. >> >> Two, I want you to know that I can make the event described below with >> David Turock's RAV4 EV. It WILL REQUIRE CHARGING EN ROUTE. Can we use >> your station or do you recommend another? >> >> I will have to leave early for a campaign event in Deer field on the way >> back. It starts at 7:30 PM. >> >> Several folks in Palm Beach have now followed up with checking the web >> site and making contributions. >> >> I look forward to seeing if they come through. >> >> We are making daily, if not hourly, successes in this campaign for >> Congress in the 22nd District. Mail or Act Blue contributions, either >> way, it is time for folks to join in. >> >> Let me know if we can charge en route. I will notify the school upon >> your >> reply. >> >> The Southern Power chargers are vastly superior in performance to the >> type >> that David Turock is using. >> >> For peace and prosperity, >> PAUL RENNEISEN >> www.Renneisen2008.com >> >> >> >> Hi all, >>> >>> I just got this invitation, which I want to pass along to you all, from >>> FAU >>> Jupiter Enviro Club President, Sarah Fannin, for any Florida EAA members >> who >>> can make it, to exhibit their EVs at FAU Jupiter's 3rd Annual >>> Environmental >>> Awareness Day, on Thursday, April 17th from 3-7pm. I have let Sarah >> know >>> that I myself can't make it due to other commitments, but hopefully one >> of >>> you, maybe someone near Jupiter, can make it there to show your EV. We >> have >>> done a number of events at and with FAU Jupiter and have a good >>> relationship >>> with both the university adminstration and the Enviro Club there. We've >> worked with Sarah on events in the past that have turned out well, >> including >>> a showing of WKtEC last year with both Chelsea Sexton and Chris Paine. >>> >>> If you would be interested in attending this event, please contact FAU >> Jupiter Enviro Club President Sarah Fannin directly at: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED], and she can send you more information, including >>> the >>> flyer for the event, which I can also send you by email, if you're >> interested in attending. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Charles Whalen >>> Florida EAA >>> Delray Beach, FL >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Sarah Fannin [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: Charles Whalen >>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:01 PM >>> Subject: FAU Environment Awareness Day >>> >>> Charles, >>> >>> On behalf of the FAU Enviro Club, I'd like to invite you and your >> organization to participate in our third annual Environment Awareness >> Day >>> on >>> Thursday, April 17th from 3-7pm on our campus here in Jupiter. >>> >>> The point of the event is to showcase environmentally oriented >>> organizations, businesses, and anything else in our area to our >> university >>> community. >>> >>> For FLEAA specifically, we were wondering if you'd like to do another >> electric car test drive. Everyone absolutely LOVED it the last time we >> did >>> it. >>> >>> We'd love to have you there. >>> >>> I've attached a participation flier for you to fill out if you're >> interested. >>> >>> Please let me know if you have any questions. >>> >>> We're looking forward to hearing from you! >>> >>> Sarah Fannin >>> FAU Enviro Club President >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Florida EAA mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.floridaeaa.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Florida EAA mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.floridaeaa.org >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 > 7:53 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > Florida EAA mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.floridaeaa.org > _______________________________________________ Florida EAA mailing list [email protected] http://www.floridaeaa.org
