Yes, Edward (or TED?), It makes me groan to think of what might have been had we had a fair election. But, now, at least, Gore has an environmental organization which has 300 million $s, and it is for education of the public. Let's make sure EV education gets on the agenda! Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Ellyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day
> Of the presidential candidates Hillary seem to be the most ardent > supporter > of EV's, Battery Technology, etc. She is willing to put the support of > the > Federal Government behind companies making EV's and rebates to those who > purchase. You are all correct though about the individual candidates not > their party. Imagine if Bush had not declared himself the winner where we > would be with Al Gore at the helm. We would all be driving EV's already > and > charging them with rooftop solar and wind turbines. Take Care TED > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Fran Sullivan-Fahs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:18 PM > Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day > > >> Fran, >> >> I wholeheartedly agree with you. I have never seen EVs as a partisan >> political issue and don't believe it is or rightly can be characterized >> that >> way. Of the hundreds of people I know who drive EVs, work in the EV >> industry, etc., it's amazing how fairly evenly split they are between >> Democrats and Republicans. And it's also amazing how polite and >> courteous >> they all toward each other and how civil the discourse is between them >> all, >> even the somewhat more politically-tending discourse. There's a good >> reason >> for that. It's because EVs are the one thing that unites us all -- >> Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Libertarians, Independents, third >> parties, >> etc. I myself am an Independent and am not a partisan political type. >> But >> I have always exercised my right to vote, which I feel is an important >> civic >> duty and responsibility. And I am interested in getting involved in the >> political process for the purpose of advocating and promoting our >> cause -- >> EVs. In particular, I am interested, willing, and passionate about >> actively >> supporting any politician, of whatever stripe or party (it doesn't matter >> and makes no difference to me), who supports EVs. In this campaign >> season, >> I am actively supporting, and financially contributing to, two >> politicians >> (in both of whose respective voting districts I live) who are EV >> supporters -- one a Democrat, Paul Renneisen for Congress in Florida's >> 22nd >> District, and the other a Republican, my state representative, Adam >> Hasner, >> who has long been and continues to be the leader and strongest supporter >> of >> Alternative Fuel initiatives in the Florida State House of >> Representatives. >> I am extremely impressed with Rep. Hasner, whom I met in Tallahassee last >> week, and his knowledge of and passion for EVs. He and his wife both >> drive >> hybrids back at home here in the district, in Boca Raton. It turns out >> that Rep. Hasner has got some key inside connections at Tesla and knows a >> lot more than I do about what's going on inside Tesla. Adam is a big EV >> fan >> and enthusiast. >> >> This EV thing has never been a Democrat vs. Republican partisan issue. >> It >> is far too important and critical to our nation's future than that. >> Smart, >> intelligent, knowledgeable, well-informed politicians like Democrat Paul >> Renneisen and Republican Adam Hasner recognize that and the fact that >> this >> is a *national* issue that is way above petty partisan politics. I can >> tell >> you from knowing and working with both of them, that smart, savvy >> Democrats >> like Paul Renneisen and smart, savvy Republicans like Adam Hasner have a >> lot >> more in common than they do that separates them. We are all in this >> struggle together -- Democrats, Republicans, Libertariains, Greens, and >> Independents -- first and foremost as AMERICANS!!! >> >> There is, quite unfortunately, one particular EV discussion list where >> there >> are a sizeable number of people who lack the education, intellect, >> intelligence, and maturity to discuss political issues surrounding EVs in >> a >> civil, courteous manner without the discussion degenerating into personal >> insults, attacks, and flame wars. I am very happy and proud that we here >> in >> the Florida EAA have never had such problems and that we all exhibit the >> kind of maturity and intelligence to engage in civil discussion. Having >> said that, I do however think it is probably a waste of our time and >> bandwidth, and basically irrelevant to us, to engage in any kind of >> extended >> political discussions that stray off topic from EVs. But on the other >> hand, >> I do think it's appropriate and relevant to our FLEAA discussion list to >> at >> least acknowledge those politicians in our state, like Democrat Paul >> Renneisen and Republicans Adam Hasner and Lee Constantine, who are >> enthusiastic EV supporters. One may or may not vote for any one of them >> due >> to other, unrelated issues, which we need not discuss here, but I think >> we >> all support their respective championing of the EV & Alt. Fuel cause and >> thank them for their contributions in that field. I myself never voted >> for >> President George W. Bush, because I have always differed with him on too >> many important issues, but I am grateful to President Bush for having >> repeatedly admonished the American people several times for "our nation's >> addiction to foreign oil". I acknowledge the important contribution >> President Bush has made in advancing our cause by highlighting this issue >> to >> the American people. There are always reasonable and balanced ways for >> us >> to discuss these things with a modicum of discretion, respect, and by >> sticking to the central issue of EVs. >> >> Charles Whalen >> Delray Beach >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fran Sullivan-Fahs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day >> >> Charles, I am just speaking as a member (and a new one at that), but I >> don' >> t see how any of us can object to an Ev person who is running for >> Congress >> getting a little support from us. If there is anything we can do up in >> Tally >> Town to help, Paul, please let us know. And that helping hand extends >> across >> party lines! (It's about time for more of that, don't you think?) Fran >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Paul Renneisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:13 PM >> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day >> >>> Paul, >>> >>> First, I can't tell you how happy I am that all of us working >>> together -- >>> you, me, David Turock, and Andrew Roddy, and even Chelsea Sexton behind >>> the >>> scenes -- succeeded in getting you back up and running, back on the road >>> and >>> the campaign trail with David's RAV4-EV! It was truly a team effort >>> that >>> exemplies the best spirit of cooperation, collaboration, and camaraderie >>> in >>> our EV community! >>> >>> It's interesting to hear that the GM Gen 2+ charger is doing a better >>> job >>> of >>> charging David's RAV4-EV, giving it a better and fuller charge, >>> resulting >>> in >>> greater range, than his TAL did. I have often heard California RAV4-EV >>> drivers talk about how much better the GM Gen 2+ charger is than the >>> TAL, >>> but I was never sure about it myself. I have a Gen 2+ charger installed >>> at >>> Grassroots EV in Fort Pierce that I have used many times, without >>> problem, >>> and it does an excellent job of charging. >>> >>> Second, as for it (that GM Gen 2+ charger that I left down there at >>> David's >>> place) being "MY" unit, as you referred to it, well, that *was* the >>> case, >>> but you and David are now the proud owners of that unit, as David has >>> just >>> bought it from me ... (at my cost, I might add; I have never made a >>> profit >>> on EVers on don't intend to). If you ever have any trouble with that >>> unit, >>> like if it malfunctions, stops working, whatever, just let me know, and >>> I >>> will replace it with another one, free of charge. >>> >>> Paul, since you live in the southern part of Florida's 22nd >>> Congressional >>> District (that you are campaigning for), I know that you are be able to >>> get >>> around to campaign events down there in all of Broward County without >>> needing an intermediate opportunity charge enroute, as long as you leave >>> home on a full charge. And that is even true for destinations in >>> southern >>> Palm Beach County. But for you to be able to drive the RAV4-EV to >>> campaign >>> events and destinations in the northern part of your district, Florida >>> 22nd >>> Congressional District, which basically is northern Palm Beach County, >>> we >>> are going to have to get you familiar with the few charging sites we've >>> got >>> in Delray Beach, West Palm Beach, and Palm Beach, where you will need to >>> opportunity charge enroute in order to make it all the way up there and >>> back >>> home. >>> >>> Here are two charging sites, one in Delray Beach, and another in West >>> Palm >>> Beach: >>> >>> 1935 SW 35th Ave. >>> Delray Beach, FL 33445 >>> Contact: Charles Whalen >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Tel: 561-638-6881 >>> 14-50, 40A/240V >>> TAL small-paddle inductive >>> Outside at driveway >>> Access: 7am-9pm, 7 days a week, other times by prior arrangement >>> Lat/Long coordinates: 26.43640100 -80.10820000 >>> >>> 119 Datura Street >>> West Palm Beach, FL 33401 >>> 10-30, 50A/208V >>> 10-30, 60A/208V >>> Outside at rear, northeast corner of building, facing parking lot >>> Access: 24x7 >>> Lat/Long coordinates: 26.712169 -80.049569 >>> >>> The one in Delray Beach is at my house. Although I have listed access >>> as >>> 7am-9pm, since I know you well and am an enthusiastic supporter of your >>> campaign, you are obviously welcome to stop by here and charge at my >>> place >>> anytime you need to, 24x7, without any prior arrangement or calling >>> ahead. >>> You are always welcome here. My TAL is outside at the driveway. All >>> you >>> have to do is to pull up the driveway and plug the TAL into your >>> RAV4-EV's >>> charge port. >>> >>> The charging site on Datura Street in West Palm Beach is in a parking >>> lot >>> just off of Clematis (on the south side of Clematis), near the end of >>> Clematis, across the street from the public library there, and >>> immediately >>> adjacent to E.R. Bradley's Saloon & Restaurant, behind the restaurant. >>> (Great outdoor restaurant, by the way!) You have a 10-30 plug on the >>> end >>> of >>> the 50-foot charging cable that I have lent you, so you can plug into >>> either >>> of those two 10-30 outlets there. But you should first go into that >>> shop >>> at >>> 119 Datura Street (if it is during business hours) and ask them for >>> permission to charge from those outlets on the back of the building in >>> the >>> parking lot behind the shop. >>> >>> By the way, as for charging at my house, as I recall, last year I >>> measured >>> (on Mapquest), and subsequently verified by driving it, the distance >>> from >>> my >>> house to FAU Jupiter to be 35 miles. So 35 miles out and 35 miles back >>> gives a round-trip of 70 miles. That doesn't leave a whole lot of >>> mileage >>> for Ride 'n Drive demos up there at this event at FAU Jupiter. I >>> attended >>> this specific event last year and decided that to be safe and leave >>> myself >>> plenty of margin, I would limit any Ride 'n Drive demos to 10 miles, so >>> as >>> to keep my total out-and-back mileage to no more than 80 miles. (Even >>> though the car has a range of 120 miles, I like to be safe and limit my >>> legs >>> between charges to no more than 85 miles, or 95 miles at the most, as I >>> did >>> on one occasion when I took a detour to give Matt Graham a ride back >>> home >>> to >>> Hobe Sound from Fort Pierce.) So that's what I did at this event at FAU >>> Jupiter last year. >>> >>> There are two other charging locations in West Palm Beach and Palm >>> Beach, >>> respectively, that are not yet on my charging station list (which I >>> *still* >>> have *yet* to get up on a website ... forever the worst procrastinator, >>> I >>> am!). >>> >>> The first one, in West Palm Beach, is Paul Liddle's house, the guy who >>> operates the EVPorsche.com business, which, by the way, I hear is going >>> gangbusters (which is apparently why we don't hear from him much, >>> because >>> he >>> is so busy filling orders and delivering EVs; congratulations Paul!). >>> >>> Here is Paul's address and contact info: >>> >>> Paul Liddle >>> 1288 Glen Road >>> West Palm Beach, FL 33406 >>> tel: 561-301-2369 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> This location, Paul's house, is just a half-mile south of Southern >>> Blvd., >>> just a quarter-mile west of I-95. This would make a perfect enroute >>> charging site for you. Paul Liddle and I have discussed installing an >>> outside 50A 240V outlet and putting it on our charging station list, >>> which >>> Paul said he'd be willing to do, but we haven't gotten around to doing >>> it >>> yet. Paul is a great guy, a very enthusiastic EVer, and very welcoming >>> and >>> accommodating to all EVers. I have charged at his house many times, and >>> so >>> has Andrew Roddy. >>> >>> But all of Paul's outlets are inside his garage at present. So you need >>> to >>> call ahead and make prior arrangements to charge there when Paul will be >>> there. He is there most of the time, other than when he is away on >>> business >>> travel, as he operates his EV business out of his enormous (Jay Leno >>> size) >>> garage. I forget exactly what type of receptacles Paul has for 240V >>> outlets. You need to check him on that. You (Paul Renneisen) have >>> currently got the ability to plug into 10-30, 14-50, and 14-30 >>> receptacles. >>> If Paul Liddle has different types of receptacles for his 50A 240V >>> outlets, >>> then you will need to stop by my place and pick up the appropriate plug >>> adaptor, as I have adaptors for every type of 240V receptacle known to >>> man. >>> :-) >>> >>> As for distances, it's 22 miles from your (Paul Renneisen's) house to my >>> house in Delray Beach. >>> It's 19 miles from my house in Delray Beach to Paul Liddle's house in >>> West >>> Palm Beach. >>> And as I said, it's 35 miles from my house in Delray Beach to FAU >>> Jupiter. >>> So it's probably about 16 miles from Paul Liddle's house in West Palm >>> Beach >>> to FAU Jupiter. >>> >>> Finally, the last possibility for a charging site is Andrew Roddy's >>> house >>> in >>> Palm Beach: >>> >>> Andrew Roddy >>> 231 Kenlyn Road >>> Palm Beach, FL 33480 >>> tel: 561-848-3781 >>> cell: 561-632-8378 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> The only inconvenience I see with Andrew's house is that he lives on the >>> far >>> north end of Palm Beach island, so after charging, you'd have to double >>> back >>> and go all the way back down south to Royal Poinciana Way to get off the >>> island, over the bridge into downtown West Palm Beach, and then back to >>> I-95. >>> >>> I know that Andrew has got a 50A 240V outlet, but I don't know whether >>> it's >>> outside at the driveway or inside his garage, and I don't know what the >>> receptacle type is. So here again, you would need to contact and >>> pre-arrange any charging opportunity there with Andrew, find out what >>> type >>> of receptacle he's got, and then if you need an adaptor for that type of >>> receptacle, stop by my place here and I'll lend you the appropriate >>> adaptor >>> plug. >>> >>> Glad to hear that the campaign is going well and fundraising is picking >>> up. >>> >>> Let me know if there is anything else I can do. >>> >>> Hope this is not getting too political for this list. I know we're not >>> supposed to discuss politics here. So if I've way overstepped the >>> bounds >>> (probably have), let me know. It's just very exciting to have as one of >>> our >>> members, and one of our most enthusiastic members at that, the first EV >>> driver in the history of this country to run for Congress! I've got >>> this >>> stuff in my blood as my father was a 6-term Congressman from Ohio, and >>> the >>> first Republican Member of Congress to come out against the Vietnam War. >>> (Oh well, I hope at least *that* is not controversial or too political >>> anymore, being ancient history from 40 years ago.) >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Charles Whalen >>> Director of Public Charging Infrastructure >>> Florida EAA >>> Delray Beach, FL >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Paul Renneisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 4:37 PM >>> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day >>> >>> Charles, >>> First, >>> >>> I want to tell you how your efforts made a major difference for another >>> FLEAA member. David Turock's RAV4 is charging with an extra 10-20 >>> miles. >>> Why? I don't know. But your examination and evaluation of the Magne >>> Charger at 3121 NE 57th Court, NOW BACK IN SERVICE, with YOUR unit, >>> shows >>> that the type used by David is at least different in amount of charge it >>> stores. Obviously less. >>> >>> Two, I want you to know that I can make the event described below with >>> David Turock's RAV4 EV. It WILL REQUIRE CHARGING EN ROUTE. Can we use >>> your station or do you recommend another? >>> >>> I will have to leave early for a campaign event in Deer field on the way >>> back. It starts at 7:30 PM. >>> >>> Several folks in Palm Beach have now followed up with checking the web >>> site and making contributions. >>> >>> I look forward to seeing if they come through. >>> >>> We are making daily, if not hourly, successes in this campaign for >>> Congress in the 22nd District. Mail or Act Blue contributions, either >>> way, it is time for folks to join in. >>> >>> Let me know if we can charge en route. I will notify the school upon >>> your >>> reply. >>> >>> The Southern Power chargers are vastly superior in performance to the >>> type >>> that David Turock is using. >>> >>> For peace and prosperity, >>> PAUL RENNEISEN >>> www.Renneisen2008.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I just got this invitation, which I want to pass along to you all, from >>>> FAU >>>> Jupiter Enviro Club President, Sarah Fannin, for any Florida EAA >>>> members >>> who >>>> can make it, to exhibit their EVs at FAU Jupiter's 3rd Annual >>>> Environmental >>>> Awareness Day, on Thursday, April 17th from 3-7pm. I have let Sarah >>> know >>>> that I myself can't make it due to other commitments, but hopefully one >>> of >>>> you, maybe someone near Jupiter, can make it there to show your EV. We >>> have >>>> done a number of events at and with FAU Jupiter and have a good >>>> relationship >>>> with both the university adminstration and the Enviro Club there. >>>> We've >>> worked with Sarah on events in the past that have turned out well, >>> including >>>> a showing of WKtEC last year with both Chelsea Sexton and Chris Paine. >>>> >>>> If you would be interested in attending this event, please contact FAU >>> Jupiter Enviro Club President Sarah Fannin directly at: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED], and she can send you more information, including >>>> the >>>> flyer for the event, which I can also send you by email, if you're >>> interested in attending. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Charles Whalen >>>> Florida EAA >>>> Delray Beach, FL >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Sarah Fannin [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> To: Charles Whalen >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:01 PM >>>> Subject: FAU Environment Awareness Day >>>> >>>> Charles, >>>> >>>> On behalf of the FAU Enviro Club, I'd like to invite you and your >>> organization to participate in our third annual Environment Awareness >>> Day >>>> on >>>> Thursday, April 17th from 3-7pm on our campus here in Jupiter. >>>> >>>> The point of the event is to showcase environmentally oriented >>>> organizations, businesses, and anything else in our area to our >>> university >>>> community. >>>> >>>> For FLEAA specifically, we were wondering if you'd like to do another >>> electric car test drive. Everyone absolutely LOVED it the last time we >>> did >>>> it. >>>> >>>> We'd love to have you there. >>>> >>>> I've attached a participation flier for you to fill out if you're >>> interested. >>>> >>>> Please let me know if you have any questions. >>>> >>>> We're looking forward to hearing from you! >>>> >>>> Sarah Fannin >>>> FAU Enviro Club President >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Florida EAA mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.floridaeaa.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Florida EAA mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.floridaeaa.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 4/5/2008 >> 7:53 AM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Florida EAA mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.floridaeaa.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Florida EAA mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.floridaeaa.org > _______________________________________________ Florida EAA mailing list [email protected] http://www.floridaeaa.org
