This may go against all we know about standardizing assessments, but the
ultimate goal for me at this point in the year is to get to know my
students as readers and writers, and an official, documented assessment
is not required by my district beyond 4th....I teach 5th LA/SS and want
some baseline data to document growth for each child, so I hybridize BR
and QRI, resulting in a fluency baseline, comprehension baseline, and
word recognition...

Of course to go deeper, I keep anecdotals and check reading responses
using a rubric, which changes throughout the year, depending on the
comp. strategy unit of study and my state assessment (March, 1st
week--High stakes, must pass to go to 6th grade, but have 3 chances to
take it!!!) scope and sequence for specific TEKS, or tested reading
objectives, such as main idea, sequence, inference, drawing conclusions,
etc.--

Has anyone read Franki S's new book?  I am likely ruining the actual
title, but I think it is ASSESSING THROUGH THE READING WORKSHOP....This
book is both affirming and informational regarding ways to capture
informal snapshots of readers throughout the year.  She includes an
"assessment web", with the child's name in the center and various
assessment tools placed around the page, where documentation regarding
QRI, fluency, reading response,etc. are is kept.  What a great tool for
planning based on assessments, both short term and long term!  I think
this assessment web will also provide talking points for parent
conferences and RTI.

Thoughts, anyone?

May the process be with you!

Melinda Haynes-Hawkins

"If you want to build a ship, don't herd people together to collect
wood and
don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for
the
endless immensity of the sea." (Antoine de Saint-Exupery)
 
Melinda Hawkins
5th Grade LA/SS
McCulloch Intermediate School
Highland Park ISD
(214) 780-2325
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>>> "central wisconsin wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/2/2008 8:56 PM
>>>
I also used the QRI as a requirement for a class I took this past
summer. 
It does take a long time to give the assessment, but you can also
choose 
which parts of the assessment you wish to use.  I found the retelling 
portion of the assessment to be less useful and frustrating to the
students 
because an average retelling for a student at their instructional level
for 
narrative text is about 33 percent.  I also found the retelling to be 
somewhat redundant if you were also asking the comprehension
questions.

I use the Burns and Roe IRI by Houghton Mifflin at my school.  I found
the 
Burns and Roe to be less time consuming than the QRI and it provided
the 
information I was looking for:  word recognition, comprehension, and 
fluency.  It has graded word lists like the QRI from preprimer to grade
12 
to establish a base line and four passages at each reading level.  The
QRI 
has levels preprimer to grade 6, then it has upper middle school and
high 
school passages.  The Burns and Roe passages are also narrative and 
expository like the QRI and it uses literal and inferential quesions to

assess comprehension.  I did like the different options that the QRI
had 
like allowing for look-backs and think-alouds.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heather Poland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "A list for improving literacy with focus on middle grades." 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LIT] data records for kids reading


>I wouldn't use Running Records for middle school students. They are 
>designed
> for primary grades. The QRI is a really good informal reading
assessment. 
> It
> takes a little while to give, but it gives you awesome data.
>
> There is a passage, I usually have them read it silently first, then
out
> loud so I can do miscue analysis. I don't do the outloud every time,
but
> definitely to get a baseline. Then, there are comprehension questions
at 
> the

> end and a spot for a retelling. I like the QRI specifically because
it 
> asks
> different types of questions- inferential, literal, etc. so you can
see
> exactly what the student needs.
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Debbie Parker
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Pat -- we have internal assessments and state test results as
>> documentation.  However, we are being asked to keep records of
kids'
>> progress to see if they need to go into short-term reinforcement of

>> language
>> arts.  Just wondering what kind of observation forms or running
records 
>> are
>> kept by others.  Thanks for your help!
>>
>>
>> Debbie Parker
>> 203-470-7705
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 8/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [LIT] data records for kids reading
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 9:00 AM
>>
>> In a message dated 8/30/08 8:27:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
>>
>>
>> > We are implementing a lot of RTI this year in our school and need
to
>> > collect more data about how kids read.  Do any of you have records
or
>> evaluations
>> > that you use that could help?  Thanks,
>> >
>> =======
>>
>> I am an RTI teacher for grades 6 and 8.   What kind of information
are 
>> you
>> looking for? We have state scores on our students and we also give
a
>> computerized test to the whole school which is called a MAP test. I
will
>> also
>> do an oral
>> assessment on my students, a multiple choice one, and also ask them
to
>> complete a reading straegy survey.
>>
>> Pat - NY
>>
>>
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