Does anyone make a 12ga flare gun that will handle shot gun shells? That seems to be a logical solution.
-----Original Message----- From: Norm of Bandersnatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 7:26 am Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] lv-ab: question for those who know Merrill, The problem I see is that the intruder might be in the cockpit when you needed to get to the gun. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek FL 30 07.72N 081 38.4W > [Original Message] > From: Ballantyne, Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 11/27/2007 10:37:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] lv-ab: question for those who know > > I'm going to reply to the list because this is a valid topic as far as I > am concerned if you don't like the topic delete now. > > If I were to have a gun on board (I'm not saying I don't) I would > construct a hiding place for it such that it were perfectly concealed, > and sealed. > > The way I would build this hiding place, is in the cockpit I would > construct a fiberglass cabinet, cut a hole in the cockpit combing > underneath a large winch (to foil any attempt at metal detection), and > glass the cabinet in place. Next I would oil and wrap the weapon in > foam and insert it and an extra magazine or ammo into the cabinet such > that It would be firmly secured so as not to move around. Next I would > replace the piece of fiberglass that resulted from the cockpit hole, and > carefully 'glue' it back into place using a small amount of thickened > gelcoat. Then I would fair and blend the area so that the joint was > completely invisible. > > A swift kick to the area will shatter the weak gelcoat exposing the > firearm. > > Another similar installation within the cabin would also be useful in > case it were needed before one arrived to the cockpit. > > With such an installation I would have no qualms about cruising loaded > anywhere in the usa (including California), and probably in the world. > It would be a fair risk to do so anyway- probably less than or at least > equal to the risk of cruising without a weapon. In the USA the coast > guard has to have a special permit (with probable cause) in order to > perform a search which results in deliberate damage to the vessel. Eg. > If they suspected there was a secret compartment... or if you answered > 'yes' to whether you had firearms aboard but refused to disclose their > location. > > In my mind the right to use deadly force against a threat of deadly > force is inalienable and worth dying and lying for. 'are you armed' is > a ridiculous question and deserves a ridiculous answer. > > On to your other question- it is my understanding that any place with > qualifying features (usually defined legally as a bathroom, sink, and > stove) is a place (regardless of type) that he can store his weapons be > it a boat or an RV if he can prove he is living there. This is > especially true if the individual has no other place of residence. > Please feel free to dispute this. > > I would also steer one away from handguns to a more effective (although > larger) type of gun like a shotgun. > > I am also aware of a case where a person went to court for carrying a > black powder 6 shot revolver onto a school premisis and won the case > since black powder guns are not legally considered firearms. If you > stored such a weapon in a sealed enclosure like I described above and > included dessicant (a good idea in any case) the powder and primer would > probably remain intact for years. > > -Merrill > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html _______________________________________________ Liveaboard mailing list [email protected] To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003
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