Any 12ga flare gun can handle a light shot gun shell but will you be able to hold it is the problem. You want a very light shot load so that is one thing. The plastic guns may be destroyed after one shot but at least you would have one shot. The stainless ones should be able to take a lot more abuse. The big thing is going to be controlling that kick without ripping your arm off. But I would rather have a messed up arm then be dead.
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] lv-ab: question for those who know Does anyone make a 12ga flare gun that will handle shot gun shells? That seems to be a logical solution. -----Original Message----- From: Norm of Bandersnatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 7:26 am Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] lv-ab: question for those who know Merrill, The problem I see is that the intruder might be in the cockpit when you needed to get to the gun. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek FL 30 07.72N 081 38.4W > [Original Message] > From: Ballantyne, Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 11/27/2007 10:37:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] lv-ab: question for those who know > > I'm going to reply to the list because this is a valid topic as far as I > am concerned if you don't like the topic delete now. > > If I were to have a gun on board (I'm not saying I don't) I would > construct a hiding place for it such that it were perfectly concealed, > and sealed. > > The way I would build this hiding place, is in the cockpit I would > construct a fiberglass cabinet, cut a hole in the cockpit combing > underneath a large winch (to foil any attempt at metal detection), and > glass the cabinet in place. Next I would oil and wrap the weapon in > foam and insert it and an extra magazine or ammo into the cabinet such > that It would be firmly secured so as not to move around. Next I would > replace the piece of fiberglass that resulted from the cockpit hole, and > carefully 'glue' it back into place using a small amount of thickened > gelcoat. Then I would fair and blend the area so that the joint was > completely invisible. > > A swift kick to the area will shatter the weak gelcoat exposing the > firearm. > > Another similar installation within the cabin would also be useful in > case it were needed before one arrived to the cockpit. > > With such an installation I would have no qualms about cruising loaded > anywhere in the usa (including California), and probably in the world. > It would be a fair risk to do so anyway- probably less than or at least > equal to the risk of cruising without a weapon. In the USA the coast > guard has to have a special permit (with probable cause) in order to > perform a search which results in deliberate damage to the vessel. Eg. > If they suspected there was a secret compartment... or if you answered > 'yes' to whether you had firearms aboard but refused to disclose their > location. > > In my mind the right to use deadly force against a threat of deadly > force is inalienable and worth dying and lying for. 'are you armed' is > a ridiculous question and deserves a ridiculous answer. > > On to your other question- it is my understanding that any place with > qualifying features (usually defined legally as a bathroom, sink, and > stove) is a place (regardless of type) that he can store his weapons be > it a boat or an RV if he can prove he is living there. This is > especially true if the individual has no other place of residence. > Please feel free to dispute this. > > I would also steer one away from handguns to a more effective (although > larger) type of gun like a shotgun. > > I am also aware of a case where a person went to court for carrying a > black powder 6 shot revolver onto a school premisis and won the case > since black powder guns are not legally considered firearms. If you > stored such a weapon in a sealed enclosure like I described above and > included dessicant (a good idea in any case) the powder and primer would > probably remain intact for years. > > -Merrill > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html _______________________________________________ Liveaboard mailing list [email protected] To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ________________________________ size=2 width="100%" align=center> More new features than ever. 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