As long as the person is up front, as she has been, I see no problem. We need all the help we can get. She puts in the effort and reaps the reward, what's the problem?? SeaWalker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Densler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] liveaboard communities Here is the moderator's opinion... I see no issue here. I would hope an author would gather data from all possible sources, especially such an expert group as this. To write a piece and purposely ignore the opinions and experiences of this type of body of knowledge could be considered irresponsible. If the writer were to accept posted data as their own and plagiarize with the intent to benefit from the list, then I would object. I think the intent of the list restrictions is to keep folks from using the list to run their businesses, sell commercial products, or activities like that. If the purpose of a post has the intent to solve liveaboard issues, bring issues to the forum, gather data for the good of our community, etc, I think it is serving the needs of the community and benefits the list. Even when it comes to products, I think there is room for discussion on the list. For example, if Andina is thinking about marketing a product that would benefit the community and asks us for our opinions of features, I can't think of a better place to ask. But to advertise or make false claims about the product to grow sales is not good. I am responsible for the design and manufacture of a rugged computer line of business and might be interested in discussing the environments that cruisers might encounter or software that they might run. Would asking a question about that be out of line? I wouldn't think so. But you won't find me trying to sell them on the list. Posters have to know their motives when posting and do the right thing. I hate censorship. My belief is that you give folks some leeway and if they cannot do the right thing, you unsubscribe them. We are a pretty smart group, we know what is right and wrong. Anyone care to comment? Sam Rit wrote: > Well, I knew I was going to open a can of worms here. > > I agree this is a great place to ask the question(s). > > However, its my understanding that this list is for non commercial > postings. > > In other words, no selling, no profit taking of our information. Our > combined list knowledge is a valuable commodity, designed for each of us > to > give freely and take freely but make no commercial enterprise out of it. > > If I'm wrong I humbly apologize to all concerned, perhaps a clarification > from our moderator would help correct my misunderstanding. > > Janet, there was no direct intent towards you and I wish you well in your > article. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Esterle > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] liveaboard communities > > > Mike, > > Why not? Where better to ask about live aboard issues? The more articles > about successful live aboard actions the better, as far as I can see. I > certainly hope she is getting paid for it. I can also vouch for the fact > she isn't getting rich even if she is paid... > > Paul Esterle > Freelance Boating Writer > Columbia 10.7, 26 & Matilda 20 > North East, MD. > “Capt’n Pauley’s Boat Repairs & Upgrades” > book at www.captnpauley.com > home.comcast.net/~pesterle/ > > > > Rit wrote: >> With all due respect Janet, I must ask if your being compensated for >> writing this article? >> If so you shouldn't be requesting this info, on this list. >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *J Hartman >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:52 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [Liveaboard] liveaboard communities >> >> I am a former liveaboard who has been asked to write an article >> about liveaboard communities that organized to protect their >> rights and perhaps gained the support of the community. The >> article must have an overall positive tone, so battles fought and >> lost are not appropriate. >> If you are or were part of a liveaboard community that survived a >> threat, please e-mail me information about what the problem was >> and how people dealt with it. What worked? What did not? >> In return, I would share successful strategies with others still >> struggling to survive. A community near me in North Carolina was >> torn apart when the big developers moved in. They formed a >> nonprofit corporation, got support of local businesses, and hired >> an attorney, but the politicos were not convinced. Although they >> are now scattered, they hope to return one day. >> If you prefer, you can reply to me off list with "liveaboard" in >> the subject. >> Janet >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Liveaboard mailing list >> [email protected] >> To adjust your membership settings over the web > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard >> To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ >> >> To search the archives > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> The Mailman Users Guide can be found here > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > To adjust your membership settings over the web > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1336 - Release Date: 3/20/2008 > 9:48 AM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1336 - Release Date: 3/20/2008 > 9:48 AM > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > To adjust your membership settings over the web > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html > -- **************************** Sam Densler mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.islandfx.com/lady S/V Lady of the Lake PDQ 36, Hull #15 Melbourne, FL S/V Stories She Could Tell Endeavour 37, Hull #454 Destroyed by Hurricane Frances 2004 Reborn and sailing again in 2007 **************************** "If you ever wonder why you ride the carousel, you do it for the stories you can tell." 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