I will comment. There is nothing wrong with asking. If you are warped enough to believe that you have some information that is so valuable that you can't give it to a fellow list memeber then don't. You know there is a delete button on your computer maybe even two. So if you don't want to be part of it then delete the message and move on. No need to tell anyone else what they should or shouldn't do.
Vern On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:28:32 -0400 Sam Densler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is the moderator's opinion... > > I see no issue here. I would hope an author would >gather data from all > possible sources, especially such an expert group as >this. To write a > piece and purposely ignore the opinions and experiences >of this type of > body of knowledge could be considered irresponsible. If >the writer were > to accept posted data as their own and plagiarize with >the intent to > benefit from the list, then I would object. > > I think the intent of the list restrictions is to keep >folks from using > the list to run their businesses, sell commercial >products, or > activities like that. If the purpose of a post has the >intent to solve > liveaboard issues, bring issues to the forum, gather >data for the good > of our community, etc, I think it is serving the needs >of the community > and benefits the list. > > Even when it comes to products, I think there is room >for discussion on > the list. For example, if Andina is thinking about >marketing a product > that would benefit the community and asks us for our >opinions of > features, I can't think of a better place to ask. But >to advertise or > make false claims about the product to grow sales is not >good. I am > responsible for the design and manufacture of a rugged >computer line of > business and might be interested in discussing the >environments that > cruisers might encounter or software that they might >run. Would asking > a question about that be out of line? I wouldn't think >so. But you > won't find me trying to sell them on the list. Posters >have to know > their motives when posting and do the right thing. I >hate censorship. > My belief is that you give folks some leeway and if they >cannot do the > right thing, you unsubscribe them. We are a pretty >smart group, we know > what is right and wrong. > > Anyone care to comment? > > Sam > > > Rit wrote: >> Well, I knew I was going to open a can of worms here. >> >> I agree this is a great place to ask the question(s). >> >> However, its my understanding that this list is for non >>commercial postings. >> >> In other words, no selling, no profit taking of our >>information. Our >> combined list knowledge is a valuable commodity, >>designed for each of us to >> give freely and take freely but make no commercial >>enterprise out of it. >> >> If I'm wrong I humbly apologize to all concerned, >>perhaps a clarification >> from our moderator would help correct my >>misunderstanding. >> >> Janet, there was no direct intent towards you and I wish >>you well in your >> article. >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >>Of Paul Esterle >> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:41 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] liveaboard communities >> >> >> Mike, >> >> Why not? Where better to ask about live aboard issues? >>The more articles >> about successful live aboard actions the better, as far >>as I can see. I >> certainly hope she is getting paid for it. I can also >>vouch for the fact >> she isn't getting rich even if she is paid... >> >> Paul Esterle >> Freelance Boating Writer >> Columbia 10.7, 26 & Matilda 20 >> North East, MD. >> “Capt’n Pauley’s Boat Repairs & Upgrades” >> book at www.captnpauley.com >> home.comcast.net/~pesterle/ >> >> >> >> Rit wrote: >>> With all due respect Janet, I must ask if your being >>>compensated for >>> writing this article? >>> If so you shouldn't be requesting this info, on this >>>list. >>> Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Behalf Of *J Hartman >>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:52 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [Liveaboard] liveaboard communities >>> >>> I am a former liveaboard who has been asked to write >>>an article >>> about liveaboard communities that organized to >>>protect their >>> rights and perhaps gained the support of the >>>community. The >>> article must have an overall positive tone, so >>>battles fought and >>> lost are not appropriate. >>> If you are or were part of a liveaboard community >>>that survived a >>> threat, please e-mail me information about what the >>>problem was >>> and how people dealt with it. What worked? What did >>>not? >>> In return, I would share successful strategies with >>>others still >>> struggling to survive. A community near me in North >>>Carolina was >>> torn apart when the big developers moved in. They >>>formed a >>> nonprofit corporation, got support of local >>>businesses, and hired >>> an attorney, but the politicos were not convinced. >>>Although they >>> are now scattered, they hope to return one day. >>> If you prefer, you can reply to me off list with >>>"liveaboard" in >>> the subject. >>> Janet >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Liveaboard mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To adjust your membership settings over the web >> http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard >>> To subscribe send an email to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> The archives are at >>>http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ >>> >>> To search the archives >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> The Mailman Users Guide can be found here >> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Liveaboard mailing list >> [email protected] >> To adjust your membership settings over the web >> http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard >> To subscribe send an email to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> The archives are at >>http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ >> >> To search the archives >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> The Mailman Users Guide can be found here >> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1336 - >>Release Date: 3/20/2008 >> 9:48 AM >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1336 - >>Release Date: 3/20/2008 >> 9:48 AM >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Liveaboard mailing list >> [email protected] >> To adjust your membership settings over the web >>http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard >> To subscribe send an email to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> The archives are at >>http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ >> >> To search the archives >>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> The Mailman Users Guide can be found here >>http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html >> > > -- > **************************** > > Sam Densler > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.islandfx.com/lady > > S/V Lady of the Lake > PDQ 36, Hull #15 > Melbourne, FL > > S/V Stories She Could Tell > Endeavour 37, Hull #454 > Destroyed by Hurricane Frances 2004 > Reborn and sailing again in 2007 > > **************************** > > "If you ever wonder why you ride the carousel, > you do it for the stories you can tell." > > Jimmy Buffett > "Stories We Could Tell" > A1A > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > To adjust your membership settings over the web >http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The archives are at >http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives >http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here >http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html _______________________________________________ Liveaboard mailing list [email protected] To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
