Don't we do he same when rigging a forestay or a babystay.
It is the same Idea. 

Yanni Marinated
S/V Princess Thalia
Columbia 8.7 #73
Hamilton-Fifty Point @ H3
N 43.13.406
W 73.37.431

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Norm of Bandersnatch 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] storm anchor



  Lee, that was excellent insight.  

  I believe you are exactly right and I made a note to do just that the next 
time I pull the hook up.  

  I do have one shackle connecting the swivel to the anchor but having a length 
of chain sound like a real winner.

  Thanks...


  Norm
  S/V Bandersnatch
  Lying Julington Creek
  30 07.695N 081 38.484W



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Lee Haefele 
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: 8/20/2008 8:54:50 PM 
    Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] storm anchoc


    The swivels are usually installed direct to the anchor.  They break during 
a side pull.  They might be OK if several shackles or chain links we in between 
the swivel and anchor to allow swinging to the side without binding.
    Lee Haefele
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Norm of Bandersnatch 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:38 PM
      Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] storm anchoc



      That sound good to me.

      The chain and anchor and shackle are another problem.

      Ann-Marie went aground in Hurricane Hugo when the chain parted company 
from the anchor.  She never found the anchor so she doesn't know if the chain 
or the shackle broke.  It broke when the hull was sideways to the oncoming seas 
due to tacking at anchor. so the forces were at peak.    He ended up in the 
woods at the edge of the marsh and it cost about $20K to drag the boat back to 
the river.  

      My friend Capt Ron lost his anchor in Key West in "the storm of the 
century" some years ogo.  He did recover his anchor and the shackle was not 
there.

      Other folks have advised me not to use a swivel as it is a weak point.

      I have been told that all shackles are "high tensile" as in high  tensile 
chain.  Can anyone confirm that?

      Norm
      S/V Bandersnatch
      Lying Julington Creek
      30 07.695N 081 38.484W



        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: 
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: 8/20/2008 1:51:20 PM 
        Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] storm anchoc


        Norm, I'm in NC and we have had more hurricanes than any other single 
location that I know of. I like web strapping. I actually use web strapping for 
a normal ( as in weather) anchor rode. It will abrade and there is little 
material compared to conventional line because it is flat and strong and 
doesn't have a lot of mass. I would put chafe guard on webbing just like nylon 
or polyester or what ever. The triple strand nylon will abrade quicker than 
braid. If I was using all chain in a hurricane I would consider the webbing to 
attache to the cleat. I would also use a length of nylon triple strand as a 
shock absorber, and might even put a weight on the rode that would lay on the 
bottom near the boat to give some "give" in the chain rode. If you have a 
steady 100 knot wind gusting to 125 etc. the rode can get pretty tight and you 
need some play to deal with wave action. That's my opinion.



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