As for the toggle buttons: we could add a tiny square led to the button to
indicate it's state.
More likely the visuals of the button for on are just "pushed down", while
off are "pulled up".
2014-01-28 Vesa <[email protected]>
> On 01/28/2014 06:36 AM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote:
>
> *[zoom/note/scale/chord:] Those icons have been assigned to John
>> Serafino and we'll just have to wait and see what he makes of them.*
>>
> Ok. The mock-up is just black boxes and should take just a few minutes.
> Let me know if you'd like me to render them, I don't have the source, so
> I'd need someone's assistance on that.
>
>
> It's been assigned to John Serafino, like I said.
>
>
>
>> *I may do slight edits to the transport buttons, but that's
>> definitely not a direction I'm going to take with them. No offense.*
>>
> No offense taken so as long as you understand I'm not critiquing but
> rather trying to help.
>
> The old interface had a bunch of constancy and continuity and seems to
> borrow heavily from the oxygen theme from KDE. The new buttons I strongly
> feel although justifiably better could benefit from some collaboration and
> feedback, much like you so generously offer.
>
> *The auto-scroll has reason to be bright, as it's a toggle button
>> with two distinct states (on/off), and it needs to be obvious with a
>> glance what state it currently is in.*
>>
> Agreed, but it outshines the entire toolbar. It's not more important than
> play.
>
>
> I'll look into it.
>
>
>
>
>> *I think it's better to maintain a consistent style and use the leds
>> we have. A combination of green/red leds is something that is in
>> almost every music software, with a well-established meaning. I seriously
>> doubt that anyone is going to have too much problems understanding what
>> these leds do, as they are.*
>>
> I've composed with a lot of people new to LMMS and those LEDs are
> confusing at first. [M] and [S] help because you aren't stuck wondering
> which LED performs which function.
>
>
> Well yeah, there's lots of things confusing about anything when you're
> first learning it. "User-friendliness" is a two-edged sword. Think of
> things like emacs. I don't use it myself personally but I know people who
> swear by it, who say after getting used to it they couldn't even stand a
> regular, modern-style text editor or IDE, that the interface is simply
> superior when you learn how it works. Yet if you sit up someone who is used
> to graphical IDE's and gedit-style editors in front of emacs, they're
> likely to be very confused and not understand how to do things.
>
> Or think of the first time you opened a software like GIMP, many people
> complain the GIMP interface is hard to understand. But once you learn it,
> there's a whole new world of things you can accomplish.
>
> The LEDs seem to fill their purpose just fine. You only have to try them
> once to figure out what they do. Their functionality becomes easily obvious
> by trial-and-error, or it can be read from the manual (which admittedly
> should be updated). Meanwhile they're clear, nice and stay out of the way
> of the user. They don't clutter the UI, and if you really don't know what
> they do, there's always tooltips. I don't think adding letters to them
> would improve anything, at least not enough to justify cluttering up the
> interface.
>
>
>
>
> The fact that you're so quick to dismiss nearly all of my
> recommendations tells me you aren't interested in changing what you've
> already done.
>
>
> Hey, let's not go there, ok? There's no need to get angry because I
> disagree with you, we can just agree that we disagree on some things. I've
> given you my view on the things you comment on, some of your suggestions I
> agree with and have agreed to look at, others I don't agree with and have
> explained my reasons why.
>
> You can never please everyone on everything, no matter how well you do
> something. Even though the reception for the new UI and theme has been
> mostly positive so far, I'm 100% certain somewhere there's at least one
> person who is going to hate it and would prefer the old theme and look
> back. Someone is going to complain. So it falls to me to gauge which things
> are problematic to many people. And I also have to make some judgement
> calls, because we can't put every single detail up to a vote.
>
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