Hi Jens,

The main reason for VM is private security.
So,  if you can give me access to your main OS ( variant b) ), this will 
be the best way, of course :).

27.09.2015 19:26, Jens Radloff пишет:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I could install a VM on my machine, but is this necessary?
>
> I have two systems installed on my machine:
>
> a) Debian 7.x
> b) Ubuntu Studio 14.04.3, where MusE is installed.
>
> Don't you have a machine or VM with Ubuntu Studio 14.04.x installed?
>
> Can it be avoided that I need to install a VM in b)?
>
> I could give you direct access to b) via teamviewer if you want, without
> any VM installed in b), if a VM is avoidable. I only would need to move
> two directories (two MusE songs) to a location which you cannot access
> ;-) There are no personal data located in b).
>
> What do you think about this?
>
> If I would grant you access to b) via teamviewer, without a VM installed
> there - would you then maybe change b), its programme setup and its
> general configuration, and maybe mess it up in order to fix the issue? Is
> this the reason why you ask me to install a VM?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jens
>
>
>
> Am Sonntag, 27. September 2015 schrieb Andrew Deryabin:
>> Hi Jens,
>>
>> Ok. That's good.
>>
>> About metronome problem: I can suggest the following decision (If you
>> don't mind, of course): can you make a virtual machine and run
>> teamviewer it it?
>> I'll then can debug this problem more quickly :).
>> P.S. the VM's OS should be the same as yours.
>>
>> 27.09.2015 16:21, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> I just downloaded and installed the latest clone - issue fixed.
>>> Thanks. But the other problem (loop mode, metronome button
>>> activated => crash) still exists.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jens
>>>
>>> Am Sonntag, 27. September 2015 schrieb Andrew Deryabin:
>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>
>>>> Now all tracks are visible by default. Update is now pushed to
>>>> master.
>>>>
>>>> 27.09.2015 11:47, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for announcing to fix this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jens
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Sonntag, 27. September 2015 schrieben Sie:
>>>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 27.09.2015 08:21, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>>>>>> Good morning Andrew,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the info. Now I can see all tracks in my songs,
>>>>>>> using a ~/.config MusE folder of a clone installation. I
>>>>>>> clicked all these buttons which by default hide certain kinds
>>>>>>> of tracks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About Out1 not visible problem. It's not displayed by default
>>>>>>>> (I think it shouldn't be fixed).
>>>>>> Oops, sorry  - I wanted to say *It should be fixed*. It seems
>>>>>> that yesterday I wanted to sleep too much :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it is not a good idea to not display all these kinds of
>>>>>>> tracks by default - if the user is unexperienced with MusE, or
>>>>>>> not as experienced as a MusE power user. All people using MusE
>>>>>>> for the first time will be confronted with the problem "why are
>>>>>>> certain tracks not displayed?". I do not think they will look
>>>>>>> at the buttons below the menu bar to resolve this problem. I
>>>>>>> did not look at these buttons, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But this is only my humble opinion about this default setting.
>>>>>> Of course. I'll make them activated by default.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 26. September 2015 schrieben Sie:
>>>>>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>>>>> About Out1 not visible problem. It's not displayed by default
>>>>>>>> (I think it shouldn't be fixed). Now you can display missing
>>>>>>>> tracks by clicking appropriate buttons on "Outputs" toolbar.
>>>>>>>> Attached png file shows them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 26.09.2015 16:42, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have created a dump file using gdb in my debug
>>>>>>>>> installation. I attached the dump file to this email. Hope
>>>>>>>>> this helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S.
>>>>>>>>>> In your output file I saw this message:
>>>>>>>>>> readConfigMidiPort: device not found MDA DX10 LV2-0
>>>>>>>>>> Does it mean, that you do not have mda dx10 plugin
>>>>>>>>>> installed?
>>>>>>>>> This message seems to be related to the content of the folder
>>>>>>>>> ~/.config/MusE.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I start MusE with this folder which has been created by
>>>>>>>>> the official 2.2.1 release, then I can see in the MusE GUI
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a) the Out 1 track
>>>>>>>>> b) the MDA DX10 LV2-0 plugin track
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I start MusE with this folder which has been created by
>>>>>>>>> a 2.2.1 clone, then I cannot see a) nor b) in the GUI of
>>>>>>>>> MusE. Both tracks are not displayed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To demonstrate this, I have attached two screenshots to this
>>>>>>>>> email:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - The screenshot "new_muse_folder.png" shows the MusE GUI
>>>>>>>>> where the Out 1 track and the MDA DX10 LV2-0 track are *not*
>>>>>>>>> displayed: MusE runs with a ~/.config/MusE folder that has
>>>>>>>>> been created by a MusE 2.2.1 clone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - The screenshot "old_muse_folder.png" shows the MusE GUI
>>>>>>>>> where the Out 1 track and the MDA DX10 LV2-0 track *are*
>>>>>>>>> displayed: MusE runs with a ~/.config/MusE folder that has
>>>>>>>>> been created by the official MusE 2.2.1 release.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By the way, I created the attached dump file with a
>>>>>>>>> ~/.config/MusE folder that has been created by the official
>>>>>>>>> MusE 2.2.1 release. Due to this, there should be no message
>>>>>>>>> "device not found MDA DX10 LV2-0" in the dump file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Freitag, 25. September 2015 schrieb Andrew Deryabin:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>>>>>>>> One more thing - your bug report doesn't have a backtrace.
>>>>>>>>>> Can you do the following:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> run in terminal:
>>>>>>>>>> gdb /opt/muse_2.2.1_patched_debug_installation/bin/muse2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ... do the same as before to make it crash...
>>>>>>>>>> in terminal you will see gdb command line.
>>>>>>>>>> type command:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> this will produce backtrace. That's what we'll need to work
>>>>>>>>>> further.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S.
>>>>>>>>>> In your output file I saw this message:
>>>>>>>>>> readConfigMidiPort: device not found MDA DX10 LV2-0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does it mean, that you do not have mda dx10 plugin
>>>>>>>>>> installed?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 25.09.2015 20:51, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Robert, hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I just compiled and installed a new debug version of
>>>>>>>>>>> MusE from the current clone. I attached a dump file about
>>>>>>>>>>> the behaviour, hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding my jack settings: I do not know how to evoke them
>>>>>>>>>>> on the command line, so I made a screenshot of my jackd
>>>>>>>>>>> settings in qjacktl. See the attached screenshot.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The jack settings were automatically set by the Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>> installation routine. I did not change them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Freitag, 25. September 2015 schrieb Jens Radloff:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, hi Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue "Another MusE crash: MusE 2.2.1, loop mode,
>>>>>>>>>>>> metronome button activated" is NOT fixed!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I played the file test_song.med in my fresh clone
>>>>>>>>>>>> release installation (see my last email regarding this
>>>>>>>>>>>> issue), I forgot to click the metronome button.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What I just did, I clicked the metronome button, and: MusE
>>>>>>>>>>>> crashes when the play cursor reaches the end of the loop
>>>>>>>>>>>> region.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I will first create a debug version of MusE using the
>>>>>>>>>>>> clone source files and will create a debug file with
>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully better debug information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Freitag, 25. September 2015 schrieb Jens Radloff:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Robert, hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the MusE installation I used to reproduce this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> behaviour is a release build.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today I did the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I recompiled and re-installed the latest clone as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release build. Before that I deleted the target
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subdirectory path muse/muse2 fort the git command, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied the command "git clone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/muse- sequencer/muse.git". Then I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied "cmake -i", "make" and "sudo make install".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before running "sudo make install" I removed the content
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the destination directory of the command "sudo make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> install". (The other method, suggested by you, via "git
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pull" and "make clean" did not work because "make"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in an "Error 2": the file all.h was missing)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. I ensured that there is no MusE folder in ~/.config
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. I started the build release of MusE.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. I loaded the file test_song.med into MusE.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. I again noticed that the file test_song.med does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Out 1 track in the GUI of MusE. I reported this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> behaviour before. This issue should be fixed. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible to properly creatre music with MusE without an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out 1 track.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. I played this file, loop mode activated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> => MusE does not crash anymore when the play cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaches the end of the loop region. I let this file play
>>>>>>>>>>>>> several times through the loop region: MusE does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> crash. I played this song again: MusE does not crash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> => Issue "Another MusE crash: MusE 2.2.1, loop mode,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> metronome button activated" is fixed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> => I guess that by the "git pull" command, then "make"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and "sudo make install" some files of an older build in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my build directory where copied to the destination
>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory of the "sudo make install" command, so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory where MusE was installed contained both MusE
>>>>>>>>>>>>> programme files from an older and the latest build, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was messed up. So it is better not to use "git pull",
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but instead start from a clean and empty directory where
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one applies the command "git clone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/muse-sequencer/muse.git";, then cmake
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -i, then make, then make install.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you use a standard distribution?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My distribution is Ubuntu Studio. This is the release
>>>>>>>>>>>>> information about my Ubuntu Studio installation:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jrad@music:/etc$ lsb_release -a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No LSB modules are available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distributor ID:   Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Description:      Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release:  14.04
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codename: trusty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jrad@music:/etc$
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what settings do you start jack with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS the issue is now fixed on my system, we do not need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> look in the Jack settings of my system anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no need anymore for me to build a debug version
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the latest MusE clone or start MusE without plugins,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the issue is fixed on my system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 24. September 2015 schrieb Robert Jonsson:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-09-24 18:11 GMT+02:00 Jens Radloff
> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, hi Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To ensure that this behaviour is not caused by an "old"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MusE folder in ~/.config I removed the directory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~/.config/MusE and started MusE again, so a new, fresh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MusE folder in ~/.config got created.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Background information: This "old" MusE folder in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~/.config is from my installation of MusE 2.2.1, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last official release. I think Andrew told me that, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use a current clone version of MusE, then I need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove the old MusE folder in ~/.config to get a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of this folder created that is set up for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use of a current clone version of MusE.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me add at this point that now, with a new, fresh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MusE folder in ~/.config, I do not have a "Out 1"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track in any MusE song anymore which I created so far.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I reported this bug some months ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as I wrote, I ensured that my clone installation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MusE is based on a fresh MusE folder in ~/.config.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the behaviour can be still reproduced: MusE crashes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the metronome button is activated at the moment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the play cursor reaches the end of the loop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> region in this song test_song.med .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So this behaviour does not seem to be caused by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content of the MusE folder in ~/.config.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, good so we can rule that out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the output of gdb (I could only copy what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only took a brief look but it seems the amount of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information in the back trace is not much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the muse binary still built for release? Building it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for debug may give more information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some additional questions, sorry if you already answered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before.. do you use a standard distribution? maybe we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can reproduce your problem. what settings do you start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jack with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The start of the printout below is what MusE outputs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during running with -D, right? And you are starting MusE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from within gdb?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you already did so I would suggest that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile MusE similar to the below:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmake .. -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing you could try is to start MusE without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins. and use MusEs own fluidsynth (under MESS) as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio output. muse2 -pNI2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We had for instance an issue some years ago that some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins caused corruption in MusE memory space due to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> duplicated symbol names.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Robert
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