Hi Jens,

27.09.2015 21:31, Jens Radloff пишет:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> ok. So you can use my Ubuntu Studio installation directly.  This is also
> the best way to reproduce the behaviour. If I would set up a VM with
> Ubuntu Studio, then I would need to configure this VM exactly the same
> way as my direct Ubuntu Studio installation. And then there would be the
> chance that the behaviour cannot be reproduced in the VM.
>
> I will install Teamviewer tomorrow morning in my Ubuntu Studio
> installaiton. Then I will send you my IP address. I guess it will be
> valid until tommorow til 23:59 CET. Is ist okay for you to look at my
> system tomorrow?
Ok, I'm planning to work all day (except 13:00-14:00 GMT) and be sitting 
if front of my monitor :)
Teamviewer will give you ID (9 digits) and password (4 digits). I'll 
need them to connect to you. ID will remain the same (it made up from 
ethernet address), but password will change every time you restart it. 
There is no need in your IP address.
>
> If you need to apply a command that needs the password of my Ubuntu
> installation (with the sudo command), then I will type it in for you,
> okay?
I think, that I'll install muse to some directory in your home dir, so 
there will not be any need in your root password (I hope).
> Regards,
>
> Jens
>
> Am Sonntag, 27. September 2015 schrieb Andrew Deryabin:
>> Hi Jens,
>>
>> The main reason for VM is private security.
>> So,  if you can give me access to your main OS ( variant b) ), this
>> will be the best way, of course :).
>>
>> 27.09.2015 19:26, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> I could install a VM on my machine, but is this necessary?
>>>
>>> I have two systems installed on my machine:
>>>
>>> a) Debian 7.x
>>> b) Ubuntu Studio 14.04.3, where MusE is installed.
>>>
>>> Don't you have a machine or VM with Ubuntu Studio 14.04.x
>>> installed?
>>>
>>> Can it be avoided that I need to install a VM in b)?
>>>
>>> I could give you direct access to b) via teamviewer if you want,
>>> without any VM installed in b), if a VM is avoidable. I only would
>>> need to move two directories (two MusE songs) to a location which
>>> you cannot access ;-) There are no personal data located in b).
>>>
>>> What do you think about this?
>>>
>>> If I would grant you access to b) via teamviewer, without a VM
>>> installed there - would you then maybe change b), its programme
>>> setup and its general configuration, and maybe mess it up in order
>>> to fix the issue? Is this the reason why you ask me to install a
>>> VM?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jens
>>>
>>> Am Sonntag, 27. September 2015 schrieb Andrew Deryabin:
>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>
>>>> Ok. That's good.
>>>>
>>>> About metronome problem: I can suggest the following decision (If
>>>> you don't mind, of course): can you make a virtual machine and
>>>> run teamviewer it it?
>>>> I'll then can debug this problem more quickly :).
>>>> P.S. the VM's OS should be the same as yours.
>>>>
>>>> 27.09.2015 16:21, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just downloaded and installed the latest clone - issue fixed.
>>>>> Thanks. But the other problem (loop mode, metronome button
>>>>> activated => crash) still exists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jens
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Sonntag, 27. September 2015 schrieb Andrew Deryabin:
>>>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now all tracks are visible by default. Update is now pushed to
>>>>>> master.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 27.09.2015 11:47, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for announcing to fix this issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 27. September 2015 schrieben Sie:
>>>>>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 27.09.2015 08:21, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>>>>>>>> Good morning Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info. Now I can see all tracks in my songs,
>>>>>>>>> using a ~/.config MusE folder of a clone installation. I
>>>>>>>>> clicked all these buttons which by default hide certain kinds
>>>>>>>>> of tracks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> About Out1 not visible problem. It's not displayed by
>>>>>>>>>> default (I think it shouldn't be fixed).
>>>>>>>> Oops, sorry  - I wanted to say *It should be fixed*. It seems
>>>>>>>> that yesterday I wanted to sleep too much :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think it is not a good idea to not display all these kinds
>>>>>>>>> of tracks by default - if the user is unexperienced with
>>>>>>>>> MusE, or not as experienced as a MusE power user. All people
>>>>>>>>> using MusE for the first time will be confronted with the
>>>>>>>>> problem "why are certain tracks not displayed?". I do not
>>>>>>>>> think they will look at the buttons below the menu bar to
>>>>>>>>> resolve this problem. I did not look at these buttons, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But this is only my humble opinion about this default
>>>>>>>>> setting.
>>>>>>>> Of course. I'll make them activated by default.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 26. September 2015 schrieben Sie:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>>>>>>> About Out1 not visible problem. It's not displayed by
>>>>>>>>>> default (I think it shouldn't be fixed). Now you can
>>>>>>>>>> display missing tracks by clicking appropriate buttons on
>>>>>>>>>> "Outputs" toolbar. Attached png file shows them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 26.09.2015 16:42, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have created a dump file using gdb in my debug
>>>>>>>>>>> installation. I attached the dump file to this email. Hope
>>>>>>>>>>> this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In your output file I saw this message:
>>>>>>>>>>>> readConfigMidiPort: device not found MDA DX10 LV2-0
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it mean, that you do not have mda dx10 plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed?
>>>>>>>>>>> This message seems to be related to the content of the
>>>>>>>>>>> folder ~/.config/MusE.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When I start MusE with this folder which has been created
>>>>>>>>>>> by the official 2.2.1 release, then I can see in the MusE
>>>>>>>>>>> GUI
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a) the Out 1 track
>>>>>>>>>>> b) the MDA DX10 LV2-0 plugin track
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When I start MusE with this folder which has been created
>>>>>>>>>>> by a 2.2.1 clone, then I cannot see a) nor b) in the GUI
>>>>>>>>>>> of MusE. Both tracks are not displayed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To demonstrate this, I have attached two screenshots to
>>>>>>>>>>> this email:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - The screenshot "new_muse_folder.png" shows the MusE GUI
>>>>>>>>>>> where the Out 1 track and the MDA DX10 LV2-0 track are
>>>>>>>>>>> *not* displayed: MusE runs with a ~/.config/MusE folder
>>>>>>>>>>> that has been created by a MusE 2.2.1 clone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - The screenshot "old_muse_folder.png" shows the MusE GUI
>>>>>>>>>>> where the Out 1 track and the MDA DX10 LV2-0 track *are*
>>>>>>>>>>> displayed: MusE runs with a ~/.config/MusE folder that has
>>>>>>>>>>> been created by the official MusE 2.2.1 release.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, I created the attached dump file with a
>>>>>>>>>>> ~/.config/MusE folder that has been created by the official
>>>>>>>>>>> MusE 2.2.1 release. Due to this, there should be no message
>>>>>>>>>>> "device not found MDA DX10 LV2-0" in the dump file.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Freitag, 25. September 2015 schrieb Andrew Deryabin:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>>>>>>>>>> One more thing - your bug report doesn't have a backtrace.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you do the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> run in terminal:
>>>>>>>>>>>> gdb /opt/muse_2.2.1_patched_debug_installation/bin/muse2
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ... do the same as before to make it crash...
>>>>>>>>>>>> in terminal you will see gdb command line.
>>>>>>>>>>>> type command:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bt
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> this will produce backtrace. That's what we'll need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> work further.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In your output file I saw this message:
>>>>>>>>>>>> readConfigMidiPort: device not found MDA DX10 LV2-0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it mean, that you do not have mda dx10 plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.09.2015 20:51, Jens Radloff пишет:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Robert, hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I just compiled and installed a new debug version of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MusE from the current clone. I attached a dump file about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the behaviour, hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding my jack settings: I do not know how to evoke
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them on the command line, so I made a screenshot of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jackd settings in qjacktl. See the attached screenshot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The jack settings were automatically set by the Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation routine. I did not change them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Freitag, 25. September 2015 schrieb Jens Radloff:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, hi Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue "Another MusE crash: MusE 2.2.1, loop mode,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metronome button activated" is NOT fixed!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I played the file test_song.med in my fresh clone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release installation (see my last email regarding this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue), I forgot to click the metronome button.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I just did, I clicked the metronome button, and:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MusE crashes when the play cursor reaches the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the loop region.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I will first create a debug version of MusE using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the clone source files and will create a debug file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with hopefully better debug information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Freitag, 25. September 2015 schrieb Jens Radloff:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Robert, hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the MusE installation I used to reproduce this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behaviour is a release build.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today I did the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I recompiled and re-installed the latest clone as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release build. Before that I deleted the target
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subdirectory path muse/muse2 fort the git command, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied the command "git clone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/muse- sequencer/muse.git". Then I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied "cmake -i", "make" and "sudo make install".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before running "sudo make install" I removed the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content of the destination directory of the command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "sudo make install". (The other method, suggested by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, via "git pull" and "make clean" did not work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because "make" resulted in an "Error 2": the file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all.h was missing)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. I ensured that there is no MusE folder in ~/.config
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. I started the build release of MusE.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. I loaded the file test_song.med into MusE.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. I again noticed that the file test_song.med does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Out 1 track in the GUI of MusE. I reported this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behaviour before. This issue should be fixed. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible to properly creatre music with MusE without an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out 1 track.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. I played this file, loop mode activated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> => MusE does not crash anymore when the play cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaches the end of the loop region. I let this file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> play several times through the loop region: MusE does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not crash. I played this song again: MusE does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> => Issue "Another MusE crash: MusE 2.2.1, loop mode,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metronome button activated" is fixed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> => I guess that by the "git pull" command, then "make"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and "sudo make install" some files of an older build in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my build directory where copied to the destination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory of the "sudo make install" command, so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory where MusE was installed contained both MusE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programme files from an older and the latest build, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was messed up. So it is better not to use "git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pull", but instead start from a clean and empty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory where one applies the command "git clone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/muse-sequencer/muse.git";, then cmake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -i, then make, then make install.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you use a standard distribution?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My distribution is Ubuntu Studio. This is the release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information about my Ubuntu Studio installation:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jrad@music:/etc$ lsb_release -a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No LSB modules are available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release:        14.04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codename:       trusty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jrad@music:/etc$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what settings do you start jack with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS the issue is now fixed on my system, we do not need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to look in the Jack settings of my system anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no need anymore for me to build a debug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of the latest MusE clone or start MusE without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins, as the issue is fixed on my system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 24. September 2015 schrieb Robert
> Jonsson:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-09-24 18:11 GMT+02:00 Jens Radloff
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, hi Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To ensure that this behaviour is not caused by an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "old" MusE folder in ~/.config I removed the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory ~/.config/MusE and started MusE again, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new, fresh MusE folder in ~/.config got created.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Background information: This "old" MusE folder in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~/.config is from my installation of MusE 2.2.1, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last official release. I think Andrew told me that,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I use a current clone version of MusE, then I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to remove the old MusE folder in ~/.config to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a new version of this folder created that is set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up for the use of a current clone version of MusE.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me add at this point that now, with a new, fresh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MusE folder in ~/.config, I do not have a "Out 1"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track in any MusE song anymore which I created so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far. I think I reported this bug some months ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as I wrote, I ensured that my clone installation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of MusE is based on a fresh MusE folder in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~/.config.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the behaviour can be still reproduced: MusE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crashes when the metronome button is activated at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the moment when the play cursor reaches the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the loop region in this song test_song.med .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So this behaviour does not seem to be caused by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content of the MusE folder in ~/.config.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, good so we can rule that out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the output of gdb (I could only copy what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only took a brief look but it seems the amount of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information in the back trace is not much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the muse binary still built for release? Building
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it for debug may give more information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some additional questions, sorry if you already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answered before.. do you use a standard distribution?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe we can reproduce your problem. what settings do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you start jack with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The start of the printout below is what MusE outputs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during running with -D, right? And you are starting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MusE from within gdb?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you already did so I would suggest that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile MusE similar to the below:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmake .. -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing you could try is to start MusE without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins. and use MusEs own fluidsynth (under MESS) as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio output. muse2 -pNI2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We had for instance an issue some years ago that some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins caused corruption in MusE memory space due to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> duplicated symbol names.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Robert
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