maybe the right thing to do would be to change the web site to link to both projects.
- robert On Wednesday, December 19, 2001, at 04:27 AM, Robert Bushman wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Ceki Gulcu wrote: > >> Two -0s. I'll have to look at chainsaw more carefully. There is also >> the http://sourceforge.net/projects/lumbermill/ project. It is not right >> for log4j to favor one opensource extension over another. > > Hi, > > As the author of Lumbermill, and a contributor > to Chainsaw, I'd first like to say thanks for > considering Oliver's fine project and mine. > Lumbermill is only a month old, and I'm proud > that it is far enough along to be mentioned. > > That said, I agree with the general sentiment > expressed in another post. I don't think any > of the Log4j GUI tools on the market have been > through enough refactoring cycles to meet > Apache's high standards. > > Moreover, while any developer (including myself) > would be proud to have a project become a part > of the Apache Software Foundation, I think it > might be better for Log4j not to include a > single GUI solution. > > Developers that use Log4j are usually fairly > advanced software engineers (rookies typically > have not yet learned the value of logging). > As such, it seems likely that most Log4j users > spend some significant amount of time refining > their toolkit (mine, for example, includes > TogetherJ, Emacs/JDE, Jikes, JDK, Lumbermill, > CVS, and a wide swath of The Jakarta Project). > > To me, this implies that more Log4j users > will benefit from a competitive offering of > available GUI applications than from a single > one that reflects the least unpleasant compromise. > IMHO, advanced developers are better served by > freedom of choice than by having a bundled > suite that is easier to install. > > While it would be an honor to be invited to > add Lumbermill to the Log4j project, I think > the best interests of the users of Log4j is > served by inspiring healthy competition between > projects that complement Log4j, and including > links to those projects on the Log4j download > page (the current practice). > > Bob > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > "I need some water" "How much?" "Enough to put a fire out" > "Where do you want it?" "On the flames" > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:log4j-dev- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:log4j-dev- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
