Mark,

Thank you for your comments.

Just to dispel what is apparently a common misunderstanding, the
documentation that existed in log4j 1.1.3 remains in the log4j
1.2-alpha6 distribution.  In fact, the javadocs and the short manual
have been improved in the various log4j 1.2 alphas compared to 1.1.3.

It was never ever my intention to render log4j unusable by removing
all documentation.  I deserve more credit than that.  The only
documentation that was removed is the long manual. The long manual was
introduced in October 2001 and was part of the 1.2 alphas since then,
until the recent 1.2-alpha6 where it was removed.  The long manual was
always explicitly copyrighted by me. Also note that log4j version
1.1.3, currently the official release of log4j, was never shipped with
the long manual.

Admittedly, the short manual is less detailed than the long manual but
it is inaccurate to say that log4j is unusable without the long
manual. 

At 08:51 11.01.2002 +0000, Mark Douglas wrote:
>I think this is a bad idea, especially if the document is something you will
>*need* to use log4j successfully.  You may as well charge for log4j.
>
>I can understand that "...writing good documentation is very time
>consuming...", but so is writing good software (log4j itself).  There are
>many people that have contributed to log4j because it is open source.  I
>feel that those people might be a bit upset by charging for the
>documentation for something they had helped to write.
                                        
Log4j will always remain open source. Always. 

I have always taken the utmost care to give credit to log4j
contributors where credit is due. By the way, if a log4j contributor
is reading these lines and feels that this was not the case, then
please please contact me. I will immediately rectify the situation by
giving appropriate credit.

Coming back to the issue of contributors being upset, I would be very
surprised if writing new documentation describing their work would be
offensive but rather the contrary.  I for one would be very pleased to
hear about such documentation, including books on log4j. Regargs, Ceki


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Ceki Gülcü - http://qos.ch



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