As just replied on the private list, imho this is now clear, is it? I also think its covered within Ralphs CLA which has been explained to me in the e-mail Curt has sent to the baord. Right?
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > In looking at the template again I really don't see how it applies. The > section under copyright has "Identify name recorded for software grant: the > name of the grant as record in the grants.txt document so that the grant can > be easily identified". There is no software grant for this as it is covered > under my ICLA. > Ralph > > > On May 17, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Curt Arnold wrote: > > On May 17, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > > I haven't dug into it, but I think the submission may require IP clearance > through the incubator (http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html). > The sentence would appear to apply: > > Any code that was developed outside of the ASF SVN repository and our public > mailing lists must be processed like this, even if the external developer is > already an ASF committer. > > And the paragraph above that says "From time to time, an external codebase > is brought into the ASF that is not a separate incubating project but still > represents a substantial contribution that was not developed within the > ASF's source control system and on our public mailing lists." > > All code developed at the ASF is developed off-list and then committed so by > the logic of using only the message you quoted almost all code would have to > go through the incubator unless the code was sent to the mailing list first. > Obviously, that makes no sense. Taking that one sentence by itself would > imply that when a new Appender is written and committed to Jira that it > would need to go through the incubator as well. > > I've looked at the template. It is appears to be for code that "lived" > outside of the ASF for some time, either as a separate project or was > somehow visible to other people before being contributed. The code in > question is not an "external codebase" because it was developed solely for > the purpose of being committed to Log4j for experimentation and discussion. > Whether it makes it into something that is ever released is for the > community to determine. > > Ralph > > > My take is that there is a poorly defined threshold of off-list-ness at > which IP clearance is warranted like there is a threshold at which an ICLA > is warranted. An ICLA is always desirable but there is a threshold which > the implied grant in the ASL lets you sleep at night. Can bounce it off > incubator@ to get a clarification of when it comes into play, but I don't > think it is clear that it does not need one. > > Is there a revision history in a personal SVN, Git, etc? If so, could you > dump it and attach it to a bug report? > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org
