Since we never had offiical release of receivers or component, is it ok to nuke them from subversion now?
Christian, do you mind doing site-related stuff? I'll update wording on the Chainsaw page and update the screenshots...and I think we could be ready soon to vote on a release.. Not sure what to do about web start...thoughts? Scott On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Christian, > > Extras are useful and should be kept around as is, unless we choose to pull > them back in to core... > > I agree, replacing companions with just extras seems to be a good choice. > > Scott > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Christian Grobmeier > <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > OK, I pulled receivers and component companion sources into Chainsaw in >> svn >> > 1178304. Is deleting the entire component and receivers companions >> > hierarchy from svn sufficient or do I need to do something else? >> >> we need to update the website, i can help here if you like >> >> > There is also the question of 'companions' only being one now (extras) - >> not >> > sure what to do site-wise about that. Maybe completely remove >> companions >> > and just replace with 'extras'? Or keep companions and only have extras >> in >> > it? >> >> Who is actually using extras? probably its time to go to attic too as >> there is no development interest (have not a clue here). >> >> Anyway I would remove the companions completely and replace it with >> extras, as you suggested. >> >> Cheers >> Christian >> >> > >> > Scott >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier < >> grobme...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > I would need to make a new release of Chainsaw after the log4j >> release >> >> > at >> >> > some point, assuming I needed other things from the updated version >> of >> >> > log4j, but right now Chainsaw depends on 1.2.16 and bundles it in the >> >> > standalone and DMG builds...so I think I'm ok.. (?) >> >> >> >> Yes, of course you are. I was thinking in the wrong direction. Seems >> >> as I practice the "style of the drunken programmer" today. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Scott >> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Christian Grobmeier >> >> > <grobme...@gmail.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com >> > >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > I'm leaning toward keeping them in the same package location - >> when >> >> >> > log4j is >> >> >> > released, I can remove the classes from Chainsaw and everything >> will >> >> >> > still >> >> >> > work. >> >> >> >> >> >> But you need to make a new release of chainsaw together with the new >> >> >> release of log4j, right? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Scott >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier >> >> >> > <grobme...@gmail.com> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Scott Deboy < >> scott.de...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I need to use some of the classes that were copied to core from >> >> >> >> > receivers in >> >> >> >> > 1165491 (rewriteappender, utillogginglevel)... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Will there be a log4j release soon or should I duplicate these >> >> >> >> > classes >> >> >> >> > in >> >> >> >> > Chainsaw? I don't want a log4j release to hold up a Chainsaw >> >> >> >> > release. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I doubt there will be a new log4j release in near future. >> Therefore >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> am +1 on making Chainsaw independent. To my knowledge it is only >> 3 >> >> >> >> classes or so, I would go with duplicating them. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> But I think I would change the package to prevent a conflict with >> a >> >> >> >> later log4j which might have the same classes >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Scott >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Scott Deboy >> >> >> >> > <scott.de...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Definitely! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Anything to simplify things and get this out the door! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for all your help Christian, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Christian Grobmeier >> >> >> >> >> <grobme...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Scott Deboy >> >> >> >> >>> <scott.de...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> > ok, moving ahead with removal then >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks, and have fun - removing old stuff makes me always >> feel >> >> >> >> >>> good, >> >> >> >> >>> hope it is the same feeling for you :-) >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Christian Grobmeier >> >> >> >> >>> > <grobme...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >>> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Scott Deboy >> >> >> >> >>> >> <scott.de...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >> > ok, I'll nuke component and receivers and pull the >> useful >> >> >> >> >>> >> > bits >> >> >> >> >>> >> > in >> >> >> >> >>> >> > to >> >> >> >> >>> >> > chainsaw...does that mean we should remove the parent >> maven >> >> >> >> >>> >> > project >> >> >> >> >>> >> > then? >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> If you speak of the parent for Companions: yes. >> >> >> >> >>> >> I think we can remove the whole Companions tree to the >> attic >> >> >> >> >>> >> then >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Christian >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >> > Scott >> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Curt Arnold >> >> >> >> >>> >> > <carn...@apache.org> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Forget the packaging renaming bit. No need to make >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Chainsaw >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> an >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> OSGi >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> package and no need to add additional work. >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >> >> >> >>> >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> >> >> >> >>> >> log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> >> >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >> >> >> >>> >> log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >> >> >>> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >> >> >> >>> log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >> >> >