I think the next release should be an RC (or beta), not the GA. There are
just too many changes since beta-9 IMO.

Ideally, there should only be minor fixes from RC to GA.

Gary


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Let me do the package rename from couch to couchdb.
> I am just after it
>
>
> On 7 Feb 2014, at 19:29, Remko Popma wrote:
>
>  Any showstoppers left for anyone?
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-529 is not great, but not
>> sure
>> if it qualifies as a showstopper...
>>
>> I'll see if I can find time to work on
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-520 this weekend, but this
>> is
>> not a showstopper IMHO. So I'd be fine with doing a release with what we
>> have now.
>>
>> Cheers, -Remko
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  On 28 Jan 2014, at 1:45, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with that, but that doesn't mean we can't add new stuff to the
>>>
>>>> API.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I would like to highlight that!
>>>
>>> Anyway happy with the proposed time plan :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> IMO: We cannot/should not break binary compatibility without a major
>>>>
>>>>> release change (and accompanying package and Maven coordinate changes).
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> How about an RC now (after showstoppers are fixed),
>>>>> then the GA release say one month later?
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep in mind we can still have bugix releases in 2.0.1, etc, and even
>>>>> API changes in 2.1 etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 28, 2014, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I agree on putting out an RC release. I think it might help spur some
>>>>> 3rd party development to integrate with the new version.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 January 2014 12:37, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> So, yes, the new level API needs to go through a non-GA release. Aside
>>>>> from that, I am behind in my Log4j2 homework to see how much work it
>>>>> will
>>>>> be to convert our Log4j1 code and extensions to v2. But that's just an
>>>>> issue on my end that should not hold up everyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been out of 100% commission for almost a week so I need to try and
>>>>> use the new level system...
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>> Due to the API change I can agree with having another beta or an RC but
>>>>> the reason I asked about GA is that I am not aware of very many
>>>>> showstopper
>>>>> issues that need to be addressed.  I am sensing that you have a real
>>>>> reluctance to have Log4j 2 released as GA and I am trying to understand
>>>>> what the reason is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Nick. Changing levels to be extensible warrants another
>>>>>
>>>>>> Beta. I'd like to see a stable API before we get into RC mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Now: Another Beta
>>>>>> - +1 month, If the API is stable: RC1
>>>>>> - RCs until shows stoppers are fixed, pick a rhythm: once a week may
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> too much, once a month too long. Every two weeks seems pretty
>>>>>> frequent for
>>>>>> our bunch for a ramp down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts on that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not so much concerned about OSGi now since I look at this as more
>>>>>> of a packaging issue and how much gets dragged in the container with
>>>>>> dependencies. For OSGi, are we really considering delivering one
>>>>>> bundle
>>>>>> (jar) per appender?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am more concerned about all the issues people seem to have in
>>>>>> servlet
>>>>>> environments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Nick Williams <
>>>>>> nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>>>>>> I wouldn't necessarily vote against a GA, but given that we just
>>>>>> MAJORLY overhauled Level, I think a brief RC is in order. It would be
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> shame if someone found a problem with Level a week after GA that
>>>>>> caused us
>>>>>> to need to change the API to fix it.
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Remko Popma wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to fix LOG4J-412 and 448, but neither of them are
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> showstoppers IMHO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remko
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, January 27, 2014, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Since we are having good discussions I would also like to find out
>>>>>>> what are blockers to a GA release.  My list includes:
>>>>>>> 1. The fix Nick is working on to allow Servlet initialization to be
>>>>>>> disabled from automatically happening in a 3.0 container.
>>>>>>> 2. Support for programmatic configuration of Loggers. I planned on
>>>>>>> working on that this weekend but worked on the custom levels instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I believe better support for OSGi is necessary I don't believe
>>>>>>> we will be able to do that for GA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there any other Jira issues or features that anybody else feels
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> required?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ralph
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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