Yeah that would work. Nashville huh? My co-worker is from there too, neat. In regard to the async and such, I think that'd be a great idea. One of the selling points of log4j over logback is performance, right?
Matt Sicker > On Jan 31, 2014, at 0:52, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > > >> On Jan 30, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >> >>> On 30 January 2014 18:01, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> >>> wrote: >>> Matt, >>> >>> Do you want to share a hotel room? I know it would certainly help my >>> finances to split one, and depending on whether you get employer support, >>> it should probably help yours as well. I'm planning on being there all five >>> days (staying in the hotel Sunday night through Thursday night)—you? >> Sharing a hotel room sounds like a good idea. I'm not sure on which days >> I'll be there, but it would most likely be almost if not the same ones. > > Okay. I'm registering and booking my travel tomorrow (Friday, which I guess > is actually today now). Should I book the hotel, too, and then you can just > pay me for your part depending on how many nights we split it? That > arrangement. works fine for me. > > By the way, I'm in central time, which is why the website say > America/Chicago. I'm actually in Nashville, though. > >> >>> I was planning on putting together several CFPs. Originally I was thinking >>> about these four: >>> >>> - An Intro to Log4j 2.0: A New Generation of Apache Logging >>> - Log4j 2 in Web Applications: A Deeper Look at Effective Java EE Logging >>> - Logging to Relational and NoSQL Databases with Log4j 2 >>> - Extending Log4j 2: Writing Custom Appenders, Filters, and Layouts >> I really like those ideas. You've effectively modularized all the ideas I >> had for CFPs. I'd be interested in doing any of those, but I have the least >> experience with the myriad Java EE technologies out of those four. > > Why don't you write up a CFP for the first and fourth ones? Be sure to > include the performance studies mentioned on the website and information > about the Levels and their extensibility, the logger interfaces, etc. in the > first one. I'll write up the CFPs for the second and third one. Before we > submit them, let's trade them with each other for review, proofreading, and > comments. How about we plan on exchanging them about 6 p.m. CST Friday > evening and then submitting them by 10 p.m. CST Friday evening. Sound good? > > Look forward to working with you on representing Log4j at ApacheCon. > > Nick > >> >>> Before you write up your CFPs, lets coordinate and come to a consensus on >>> which of us is doing which CFP. Having two people there covering Log4j >>> would be great! >> I've only drafted out a couple ideas so far, but they match up with one as >> your first one, and the other a union of the remaining. >>> Nick >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: >>> >>> > I know I'm not a committer (yet), but I would be interested in doing a >>> > talk on logging. I'll see if I can get employer support as well. Is >>> > anyone else interested in putting together a CFP or two? I'd like to >>> > cover the neat new features in log4j, why we're more awesome than SLF4J, >>> > how to use logging effectively (e.g., using aspects to inject trace >>> > logging, using informative log messages, effective usage of the API, when >>> > to use different levels, using markers, complex logging configurations, >>> > etc), how to help make log4j compatible with other logging APIs not >>> > already implemented, creating additional components (I.e., appenders, >>> > filters, layouts, etc.), and many other ideas. Obviously that's too much >>> > to cover in one talk, but it's a good place to start examining what >>> > topics to cover and at what levels of expertise. >>> > >>> > Matt Sicker >>> > >>> >> On Jan 28, 2014, at 11:29, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's right >>> >> now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an issue >>> >> getting committers to come and lead talks, the Travel Assistance >>> >> Committee will do everything it can to help you get there. Email them at >>> >> t...@apache.org. >>> >> >>> >> I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to >>> >> suggestions. Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from >>> >> different people! If we can get two PMC members to come, we can even >>> >> have a summit, which would be great exposure! We need to coordinate so >>> >> that we're covering different topics and not stepping on each other. >>> >> >>> >> I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for >>> >> this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm looking >>> >> for someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel room and >>> >> split the cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can use just 2 >>> >> hotel rooms and save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in Sunday night >>> >> and checking out of the hotel Friday morning--that's five nights. If >>> >> someone can only share the hotel for 3 nights, we can split the price >>> >> accordingly. >>> >> >>> >> Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I asked >>> >> Rich. >>> >> >>> >> I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great >>> >> opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA! >>> >> >>> >> Nick >>> >> >>> >>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> - What exactly is a project summit? >>> >> >>> >> Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of one >>> >> kind or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the direction >>> >> of the project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project summit is >>> >> whatever you want to make it, if two or more members of the PMC are >>> >> together in a room to make it happen. >>> >> >>> >>> - What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on the >>> >>> normal days? >>> >> >>> >> Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main >>> >> difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on elements - >>> >> more of a training class than an overview. >>> >> >>> >>> I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but it's >>> >>> $275 for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer on any >>> >>> Apache project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the entire >>> >>> conference, right? >>> >> >>> >> Rich: That's correct. >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials on >>> >>> April 10th: "$399 for ½ day tutorials ($299 for students) and $749 for >>> >>> full day tutorials (students and attendees)." What it doesn't say is: >>> >>> 1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for >>> >>> /committers/? >>> >> >>> >> Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone. >>> >> >>> >>> 2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone >>> >>> (it only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on April >>> >>> 11th as well)? >>> >> >>> >> Rich: We'll get that fixed. >>> >> >>> >>> 3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or 11th? >>> >> >>> >> Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the >>> >> project, and no extra fee is charged. >>> >> >>> >>> It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that >>> >>> means 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which >>> >>> means 5-9 simultaneous talks can occur. >>> >> >>> >> Rich: That is correct. >>> >> >>> >>> It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on >>> >>> Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of >>> >>> Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks? >>> >>> >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would like to attend but I’m not sure I can. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Ralph >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier >>> >>>>> <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014. >>> >>>>> If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging >>> >>>>> frameworks. >>> >>>>> I will not be there unfortunately. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Regards, >>> >>>>> Christian >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> --- >>> >>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>> >>>>> The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL >>> >>>>> @grobmeier >>> >>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>> >> >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>> > >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >
