No Camel dependencies! (other than for a log4j-camel module) I linked that Camel thing because that's what I thought was being hinted at. Camel invented their own expression language called simple that is like EL minus the functions. Something like that might be a choice to implement if it were useful, but I can't really think of how it would be useful in a way that specifying a typed default value wouldn't be.
On 2 June 2014 18:22, Ralph Goers <rgo...@apache.org> wrote: > I am not in favor of introducing script language processing as part of > creating plugins, which seems to be what the camel annotations Matt > referenced do. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Are we considering a 3rd way to do configs? Or is this just for defaults? > Are you suggesting we _duplicate_ what Camel does or that we _depend on_ > Camel for this kind of config? > > Gary > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hmm, I like the annotations for script style stuff, actually. See for >> instance what Camel offers in that regard: >> >> http://camel.apache.org/annotation-based-expression-language.html >> >> >> On 2 June 2014 10:28, Ralph Goers <rgo...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> That is essentially the same thing Matt is doing with his builders. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Ralph Goers <rgo...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't recall Jackson providing a way to specify constraints or >>>>> default values. Does it? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I do not think so, but you an init a non-final field yourself and let >>>> Jackson override it as suggested here: >>>> >>> >>> >>> http://jackson-users.ning.com/forum/topics/default-value-for-missing-int-property-when-deserializing-json >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm not trying to handle all cases under the sun. But... we've chosen >>>>> NOT to use an XML Schema based XML IO framework (like JAXB or Jackson), >>>>> instead we've invented our own. I know we do JSON as well, but so does >>>>> Jackson and it likely also has a plugin for YAML. So now, every time I'm >>>>> looking for some minor improvement, it means tweaking our custom framework >>>>> or adding boilerplate code to plugins. It's a pain, but that's where we >>>>> are >>>>> today. At least now, with the new type converters, I get the type >>>>> conversion from to int for free :-) >>>>> >>>>> In this case, I meant, you can only use attribute A or B. >>>>> >>>>> It is probably worth stepping back and looking at the big picture and >>>>> whether we want to invest in improving the current config IO framework or >>>>> at least consider if Jackson would be a better fit. Likely not for 2.0 ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Gary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Ralph Goers <rgo...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Are you looking for annotations to handle every kind of thing you >>>>>> might like to do instead of just putting a couple lines of code in the >>>>>> factory method? I would have handled this by saying foo and bar both need >>>>>> to be Integer and then adding a line do code that insures exactly one, or >>>>>> at most one, is present ( depending on what you want ). >>>>>> >>>>>> I really have no idea what it means for an attribute or element to be >>>>>> in a "choice". Does it mean at most one is specified or exactly one? What >>>>>> if I want exactly one in some cases and at most one in others? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ralph >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How do I tell my plugin that it can have attribute1 or 2, but not >>>>>> both? IOW I want the config framework to do the validation for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> How about: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> @PluginAttribute(choice="group1") int foo, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> @PluginAttribute(choice="group1") int bar >>>>>> >>>>>> Same thing for elements. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>>>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >>>>>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >>>>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >>>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >> > > > > -- > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > Home: http://garygregory.com/ > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > > -- Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
