That is true.  In fact, we could add an “experimental" profile to the parent 
pom that has the experimental modules in it. They wouldn’t have to build by 
default.

Ralph

> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Why not just put it on master and _document_ it as "experimental, feedback 
> requested". 
> 
> That way we simply use our existing release process and instead of 2.5.1, our 
> next release would be 2.6. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2015/12/12, at 3:05, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> 
>> With SVN we had a separate branch for experimental stuff.  In fact, that is 
>> where Log4j 2 originated.  I am not sure how to do the same thing with git.  
>> If you have an account at github you could put the project there. But we 
>> really can’t publish anything officially from there.
>> 
>> If you have a proposal on how to do this please let us know.
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I do not really know that it means to do RM stuff for Log4j.
>>> 
>>> I think it would be enough to release the Scala modules, and let them 
>>> depend on Log4j API 2.5, if that is possible.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Seems fine with me. Label it 2.6-beta1? Mikael, are you feeling up to 
>>> trying your hand at RM duties?
>>> 
>>> Should we release just these Scala modules as 2.6-beta1 or the whole suite?
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>> So can we release some Scala API preview now when 2.5 is out?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> On Dec 5, 2015 6:05 AM, "Ralph Goers" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > It would make more sense to me to release the scala beta as a single 
>>> > separate module. Then integrate it once you are sure.
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > Speaking of a release I am happy to start the release today if we are 
>>> > ready.  I just want to review the delete stuff Remko just added.
>>> >
>>> > Ralph
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>> > <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Maybe we could release 2.5 ASAP and the do a 2.6-beta _at the same time_ 
>>> >> with the Scala modules.
>>> >>
>>> >> Gary
>>> >>
>>> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:31 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>> >> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> How should we proceed on this? It would be good to be able to release 
>>> >>> some beta or preview version of this and get some feedback from Scala 
>>> >>> developers before we make the API final.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Ralph Goers 
>>> >>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The artifact name does not have to match the directory name. However, 
>>> >>>> we were advised that they should or else some of the Maven plugins 
>>> >>>> might have problems. I think the site plugin was one of them.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Ralph
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>> >>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I know you can change the artifact name via <finalName> or something 
>>> >>>>> like that.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:52, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>> >>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> It does in all the maven projects i know. I think certain maven 
>>> >>>>>> behaviors relies on this...
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Gary
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2015 1:21 PM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com 
>>> >>>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> The folder name doesn't have to match the module name I thought.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 04:23, Mikael Ståldal 
>>> >>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> 
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, look at branch LOG4J-1181 in Git.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to add log4j-scala_2.10 as well.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Gary Gregory 
>>> >>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, so the Maven module folder name will be like that too, 
>>> >>>>>>>>> right?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>> >>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> 
>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, Scala does not maintain binary compatibility between major 
>>> >>>>>>>>>> versions. There is a convention for encoding this into Maven 
>>> >>>>>>>>>> artifact IDs, it will be: "log4j-scala_2.10", "log4j-scala_2.11" 
>>> >>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like it could be handy.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:29, Gary Gregory 
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep on hearing that Scala suffers from a lot compatibility 
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> issues from version to version. Would is make sense to tag on 
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a version to the module to account for this, like 
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> log4j-scala-2.11.7?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> 
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking of making a log4j module, "log4j-scala", with a 
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Scala wrapper for Log4j 2, inspired from
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging 
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that make sense?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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