If it builds by default it will be part of the next release, which I am not 
certain is assured yet.  I think that is why he wants to release it separately.

Ralph

> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'm assuming that Mikael has verified some use cases on the dev branch, so it 
> should be okay to build this module by default. No need for setting up a 
> separate profile AFAIC. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2015/12/12, at 9:43, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> That seems like a bit of a pain. It would be better to specify the 
>> classifier as experimental but you can’t do that in the pom as I recall. I 
>> think you have to specify the project as of type pom and then use the maven 
>> helper plugin to attach it as an artifact with a classifier.
>> 
>> OTOH, the artifact name could be log4j-scala-experimental.
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Should the package name include ".experimental." ?
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> That is true.  In fact, we could add an “experimental" profile to the 
>>> parent pom that has the experimental modules in it. They wouldn’t have to 
>>> build by default.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Remko Popma <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Why not just put it on master and _document_ it as "experimental, feedback 
>>>> requested". 
>>>> 
>>>> That way we simply use our existing release process and instead of 2.5.1, 
>>>> our next release would be 2.6. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 3:05, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> With SVN we had a separate branch for experimental stuff.  In fact, that 
>>>>> is where Log4j 2 originated.  I am not sure how to do the same thing with 
>>>>> git.  If you have an account at github you could put the project there. 
>>>>> But we really can’t publish anything officially from there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have a proposal on how to do this please let us know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mikael Ståldal <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do not really know that it means to do RM stuff for Log4j.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think it would be enough to release the Scala modules, and let them 
>>>>>> depend on Log4j API 2.5, if that is possible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> Seems fine with me. Label it 2.6-beta1? Mikael, are you feeling up to 
>>>>>> trying your hand at RM duties?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Should we release just these Scala modules as 2.6-beta1 or the whole 
>>>>>> suite?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> So can we release some Scala API preview now when 2.5 is out?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2015 6:05 AM, "Ralph Goers" <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It would make more sense to me to release the scala beta as a single 
>>>>>> > separate module. Then integrate it once you are sure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Speaking of a release I am happy to start the release today if we are 
>>>>>> > ready.  I just want to review the delete stuff Remko just added.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Ralph
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Maybe we could release 2.5 ASAP and the do a 2.6-beta _at the same 
>>>>>> >> time_ with the Scala modules.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Gary
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:31 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" <[email protected] 
>>>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> How should we proceed on this? It would be good to be able to 
>>>>>> >>> release some beta or preview version of this and get some feedback 
>>>>>> >>> from Scala developers before we make the API final.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The artifact name does not have to match the directory name. 
>>>>>> >>>> However, we were advised that they should or else some of the Maven 
>>>>>> >>>> plugins might have problems. I think the site plugin was one of 
>>>>>> >>>> them.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Ralph
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected] 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> I know you can change the artifact name via <finalName> or 
>>>>>> >>>>> something like that.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:52, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> It does in all the maven projects i know. I think certain maven 
>>>>>> >>>>>> behaviors relies on this...
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2015 1:21 PM, "Matt Sicker" <[email protected] 
>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> The folder name doesn't have to match the module name I thought.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 04:23, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>> >>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, look at branch LOG4J-1181 in Git.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to add log4j-scala_2.10 as well.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, so the Maven module folder name will be like that too, 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, Scala does not maintain binary compatibility between 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> major versions. There is a convention for encoding this into 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maven artifact IDs, it will be: "log4j-scala_2.10", 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala_2.11" etc.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Matt Sicker 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like it could be handy.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:29, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep on hearing that Scala suffers from a lot 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility issues from version to version. Would is make 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> sense to tag on a version to the module to account for 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> this, like log4j-scala-2.11.7?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking of making a log4j module, "log4j-scala", 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a Scala wrapper for Log4j 2, inspired from
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging 
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that make sense?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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