I’d actually suggest using a version that has nothing to do with Log4j’s versioning at this point. For example 0.9 is a great way to let people know it isn’t GA.
Ralph > On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm pretty sure you can use different versions for different modules. We just > keep the same version across the project. Making it 2.5-beta1 sounds fine to > me. > > On 14 December 2015 at 03:00, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com > <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: > My intention is to make a public release, which is easily accessible > (binaries through Maven central), but mark it as preview somehow to be able > to get some feedback before we commit to a final API. > > I would prefer if we could use the same group and artifact names as in the > final, but include something in the version which marks it as preview. Such > as "2.5-beta1" > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com > <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: > I believe I could run the release plugin against just his module, but I have > never tried that. Or the process could be done manually. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 11, 2015, at 11:44 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com > <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> I thought Mikael's intention was to make the scala module part of the next >> release, while somehow marking it as experimental so that we can still make >> changes to the API depending on user feedback. >> >> I don't mind either way, but is there any way to release only the scala >> module? >> >> Remko >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2015/12/12, at 14:56, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com >> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: >> >>> If it builds by default it will be part of the next release, which I am not >>> certain is assured yet. I think that is why he wants to release it >>> separately. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm assuming that Mikael has verified some use cases on the dev branch, so >>>> it should be okay to build this module by default. No need for setting up >>>> a separate profile AFAIC. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 2015/12/12, at 9:43, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com >>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That seems like a bit of a pain. It would be better to specify the >>>>> classifier as experimental but you can’t do that in the pom as I recall. >>>>> I think you have to specify the project as of type pom and then use the >>>>> maven helper plugin to attach it as an artifact with a classifier. >>>>> >>>>> OTOH, the artifact name could be log4j-scala-experimental. >>>>> >>>>> Ralph >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Should the package name include ".experimental." ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com >>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: >>>>>> That is true. In fact, we could add an “experimental" profile to the >>>>>> parent pom that has the experimental modules in it. They wouldn’t have >>>>>> to build by default. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ralph >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why not just put it on master and _document_ it as "experimental, >>>>>>> feedback requested". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That way we simply use our existing release process and instead of >>>>>>> 2.5.1, our next release would be 2.6. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 3:05, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com >>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With SVN we had a separate branch for experimental stuff. In fact, >>>>>>>> that is where Log4j 2 originated. I am not sure how to do the same >>>>>>>> thing with git. If you have an account at github you could put the >>>>>>>> project there. But we really can’t publish anything officially from >>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have a proposal on how to do this please let us know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ralph >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do not really know that it means to do RM stuff for Log4j. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think it would be enough to release the Scala modules, and let them >>>>>>>>> depend on Log4j API 2.5, if that is possible. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Seems fine with me. Label it 2.6-beta1? Mikael, are you feeling up to >>>>>>>>> trying your hand at RM duties? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Should we release just these Scala modules as 2.6-beta1 or the whole >>>>>>>>> suite? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> So can we release some Scala API preview now when 2.5 is out? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2015 6:05 AM, "Ralph Goers" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > It would make more sense to me to release the scala beta as a >>>>>>>>> > single separate module. Then integrate it once you are sure. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Speaking of a release I am happy to start the release today if we >>>>>>>>> > are ready. I just want to review the delete stuff Remko just added. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Ralph >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> Maybe we could release 2.5 ASAP and the do a 2.6-beta _at the same >>>>>>>>> >> time_ with the Scala modules. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Gary >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:31 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" >>>>>>>>> >> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> >>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> How should we proceed on this? It would be good to be able to >>>>>>>>> >>> release some beta or preview version of this and get some >>>>>>>>> >>> feedback from Scala developers before we make the API final. >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Ralph Goers >>>>>>>>> >>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> >>>>>>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> The artifact name does not have to match the directory name. >>>>>>>>> >>>> However, we were advised that they should or else some of the >>>>>>>>> >>>> Maven plugins might have problems. I think the site plugin was >>>>>>>>> >>>> one of them. >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Ralph >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> I know you can change the artifact name via <finalName> or >>>>>>>>> >>>>> something like that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:52, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>> >>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> It does in all the maven projects i know. I think certain >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> maven behaviors relies on this... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2015 1:21 PM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The folder name doesn't have to match the module name I >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> thought. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 04:23, Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, look at branch LOG4J-1181 in Git. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to add log4j-scala_2.10 as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, so the Maven module folder name will be like that >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> too, right? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, Scala does not maintain binary compatibility between >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> major versions. There is a convention for encoding this >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> into Maven artifact IDs, it will be: "log4j-scala_2.10", >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala_2.11" etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Matt Sicker >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like it could be handy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:29, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep on hearing that Scala suffers from a lot >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility issues from version to version. Would is >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> make sense to tag on a version to the module to account >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for this, like log4j-scala-2.11.7? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking of making a log4j module, "log4j-scala", >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a Scala wrapper for Log4j 2, inspired from >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that make sense? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior software developer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Magine TV >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regeringsgatan 25 | 111 53 Stockholm, Sweden | >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.magine.com <http://www.magine.com/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Privileged and/or Confidential Information may be >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> contained in this message. 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