I’d actually suggest using a version that has nothing to do with Log4j’s 
versioning at this point. For example 0.9 is a great way to let people know it 
isn’t GA.

Ralph

> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm pretty sure you can use different versions for different modules. We just 
> keep the same version across the project. Making it 2.5-beta1 sounds fine to 
> me.
> 
> On 14 December 2015 at 03:00, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
> My intention is to make a public release, which is easily accessible 
> (binaries through Maven central), but mark it as preview somehow to be able 
> to get some feedback before we commit to a final API.
> 
> I would prefer if we could use the same group and artifact names as in the 
> final, but include something in the version which marks it as preview. Such 
> as "2.5-beta1"
> 
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> I believe I could run the release plugin against just his module, but I have 
> never tried that. Or the process could be done manually.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Dec 11, 2015, at 11:44 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I thought Mikael's intention was to make the scala module part of the next 
>> release, while somehow marking it as experimental so that we can still make 
>> changes to the API depending on user feedback. 
>> 
>> I don't mind either way, but is there any way to release only the scala 
>> module?
>> 
>> Remko 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2015/12/12, at 14:56, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> If it builds by default it will be part of the next release, which I am not 
>>> certain is assured yet.  I think that is why he wants to release it 
>>> separately.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm assuming that Mikael has verified some use cases on the dev branch, so 
>>>> it should be okay to build this module by default. No need for setting up 
>>>> a separate profile AFAIC. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 9:43, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> That seems like a bit of a pain. It would be better to specify the 
>>>>> classifier as experimental but you can’t do that in the pom as I recall. 
>>>>> I think you have to specify the project as of type pom and then use the 
>>>>> maven helper plugin to attach it as an artifact with a classifier.
>>>>> 
>>>>> OTOH, the artifact name could be log4j-scala-experimental.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Should the package name include ".experimental." ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> That is true.  In fact, we could add an “experimental" profile to the 
>>>>>> parent pom that has the experimental modules in it. They wouldn’t have 
>>>>>> to build by default.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why not just put it on master and _document_ it as "experimental, 
>>>>>>> feedback requested". 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That way we simply use our existing release process and instead of 
>>>>>>> 2.5.1, our next release would be 2.6. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 3:05, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With SVN we had a separate branch for experimental stuff.  In fact, 
>>>>>>>> that is where Log4j 2 originated.  I am not sure how to do the same 
>>>>>>>> thing with git.  If you have an account at github you could put the 
>>>>>>>> project there. But we really can’t publish anything officially from 
>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you have a proposal on how to do this please let us know.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I do not really know that it means to do RM stuff for Log4j.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think it would be enough to release the Scala modules, and let them 
>>>>>>>>> depend on Log4j API 2.5, if that is possible.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Seems fine with me. Label it 2.6-beta1? Mikael, are you feeling up to 
>>>>>>>>> trying your hand at RM duties?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Should we release just these Scala modules as 2.6-beta1 or the whole 
>>>>>>>>> suite?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So can we release some Scala API preview now when 2.5 is out?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2015 6:05 AM, "Ralph Goers" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > It would make more sense to me to release the scala beta as a 
>>>>>>>>> > single separate module. Then integrate it once you are sure.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Speaking of a release I am happy to start the release today if we 
>>>>>>>>> > are ready.  I just want to review the delete stuff Remko just added.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Ralph
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> > <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >> Maybe we could release 2.5 ASAP and the do a 2.6-beta _at the same 
>>>>>>>>> >> time_ with the Scala modules.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Gary
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:31 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" 
>>>>>>>>> >> <mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> 
>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> How should we proceed on this? It would be good to be able to 
>>>>>>>>> >>> release some beta or preview version of this and get some 
>>>>>>>>> >>> feedback from Scala developers before we make the API final.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>>>>> >>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> 
>>>>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> The artifact name does not have to match the directory name. 
>>>>>>>>> >>>> However, we were advised that they should or else some of the 
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Maven plugins might have problems. I think the site plugin was 
>>>>>>>>> >>>> one of them.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> I know you can change the artifact name via <finalName> or 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:52, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> It does in all the maven projects i know. I think certain 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> maven behaviors relies on this...
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2015 1:21 PM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The folder name doesn't have to match the module name I 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> thought.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 04:23, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, look at branch LOG4J-1181 in Git.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to add log4j-scala_2.10 as well.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, so the Maven module folder name will be like that 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> too, right?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, Scala does not maintain binary compatibility between 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> major versions. There is a convention for encoding this 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> into Maven artifact IDs, it will be: "log4j-scala_2.10", 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala_2.11" etc.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Matt Sicker 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like it could be handy.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:29, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep on hearing that Scala suffers from a lot 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility issues from version to version. Would is 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> make sense to tag on a version to the module to account 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for this, like log4j-scala-2.11.7?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking of making a log4j module, "log4j-scala", 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a Scala wrapper for Log4j 2, inspired from
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that make sense?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikael Ståldal
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior software developer 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Magine TV
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>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mikael Ståldal
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Senior software developer 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Magine TV
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>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mikael Ståldal
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Senior software developer 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Magine TV
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>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>    
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>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Mikael Ståldal
>>>>>>>>> >>> Senior software developer 
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Magine TV
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