I thought Mikael's intention was to make the scala module part of the next release, while somehow marking it as experimental so that we can still make changes to the API depending on user feedback.
I don't mind either way, but is there any way to release only the scala module? Remko Sent from my iPhone > On 2015/12/12, at 14:56, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > If it builds by default it will be part of the next release, which I am not > certain is assured yet. I think that is why he wants to release it > separately. > > Ralph > >> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'm assuming that Mikael has verified some use cases on the dev branch, so >> it should be okay to build this module by default. No need for setting up a >> separate profile AFAIC. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 2015/12/12, at 9:43, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>> >>> That seems like a bit of a pain. It would be better to specify the >>> classifier as experimental but you can’t do that in the pom as I recall. I >>> think you have to specify the project as of type pom and then use the maven >>> helper plugin to attach it as an artifact with a classifier. >>> >>> OTOH, the artifact name could be log4j-scala-experimental. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Should the package name include ".experimental." ? >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> That is true. In fact, we could add an “experimental" profile to the >>>>> parent pom that has the experimental modules in it. They wouldn’t have to >>>>> build by default. >>>>> >>>>> Ralph >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Why not just put it on master and _document_ it as "experimental, >>>>>> feedback requested". >>>>>> >>>>>> That way we simply use our existing release process and instead of >>>>>> 2.5.1, our next release would be 2.6. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 3:05, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With SVN we had a separate branch for experimental stuff. In fact, >>>>>>> that is where Log4j 2 originated. I am not sure how to do the same >>>>>>> thing with git. If you have an account at github you could put the >>>>>>> project there. But we really can’t publish anything officially from >>>>>>> there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have a proposal on how to do this please let us know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ralph >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do not really know that it means to do RM stuff for Log4j. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think it would be enough to release the Scala modules, and let them >>>>>>>> depend on Log4j API 2.5, if that is possible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Seems fine with me. Label it 2.6-beta1? Mikael, are you feeling up to >>>>>>>>> trying your hand at RM duties? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Should we release just these Scala modules as 2.6-beta1 or the whole >>>>>>>>> suite? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> So can we release some Scala API preview now when 2.5 is out? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2015 6:05 AM, "Ralph Goers" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > It would make more sense to me to release the scala beta as a >>>>>>>>>>> > single separate module. Then integrate it once you are sure. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Speaking of a release I am happy to start the release today if we >>>>>>>>>>> > are ready. I just want to review the delete stuff Remko just >>>>>>>>>>> > added. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Ralph >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> Maybe we could release 2.5 ASAP and the do a 2.6-beta _at the >>>>>>>>>>> >> same time_ with the Scala modules. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Gary >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:31 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" >>>>>>>>>>> >> <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> How should we proceed on this? It would be good to be able to >>>>>>>>>>> >>> release some beta or preview version of this and get some >>>>>>>>>>> >>> feedback from Scala developers before we make the API final. >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Ralph Goers >>>>>>>>>>> >>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The artifact name does not have to match the directory name. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> However, we were advised that they should or else some of the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Maven plugins might have problems. I think the site plugin was >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> one of them. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Ralph >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> I know you can change the artifact name via <finalName> or >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> something like that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:52, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> It does in all the maven projects i know. I think certain >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> maven behaviors relies on this... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2015 1:21 PM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The folder name doesn't have to match the module name I >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> thought. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 04:23, Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, look at branch LOG4J-1181 in Git. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to add log4j-scala_2.10 as well. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, so the Maven module folder name will be like that >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> too, right? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, Scala does not maintain binary compatibility >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> between major versions. There is a convention for >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> encoding this into Maven artifact IDs, it will be: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala_2.10", "log4j-scala_2.11" etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Matt Sicker >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like it could be handy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:29, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep on hearing that Scala suffers from a lot >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility issues from version to version. Would is >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> make sense to tag on a version to the module to >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for this, like log4j-scala-2.11.7? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking of making a log4j module, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala", with a Scala wrapper for Log4j 2, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> inspired from >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that make sense? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikael Ståldal >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior software developer >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Magine TV >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regeringsgatan 25 | 111 53 Stockholm, Sweden | >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.magine.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Privileged and/or Confidential Information may be >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> contained in this message. 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