Logback 1.2-SNAPSHOT

Ralph

> On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:29 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sorry what 1.2 do you mean? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 7, 2017, at 11:06, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> 
>> In 1.2?  That may work for a FileOutputStream but it isn’t guaranteed to 
>> work for others.
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure if I'm looking in the right place, but a major difference now 
>>> between Logback's appenders and Log4j's is that Logback isn't synchronized 
>>> on the append method.
>>> 
>>> On 6 February 2017 at 18:18, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Is this something we can improve performance on by implementing a file 
>>> appender based on FileChannel or AsynchronousFileChannel instead of 
>>> OutputStream?
>>> 
>>> On 6 February 2017 at 17:50, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>> Ceki has updated his numbers to include those reported on the mailing list. 
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qnyye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0
>>>  
>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qnyye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0>
>>> 
>>> I haven’t run the tests with Logback 1.2-SNAPSHOT but my numbers for my two 
>>> MacBooks are at 
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L67IhmUVvyLBWtC6iq0TMj-j0vrbKsUKWuZV0Nlqisk/edit?usp=sharing
>>>  
>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L67IhmUVvyLBWtC6iq0TMj-j0vrbKsUKWuZV0Nlqisk/edit?usp=sharing>.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, that is still the standard approach most people use and is the only 
>>>> way to provide a head-to-head comparison against the logging frameworks.
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:02 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is all in a synchronous appender, right? Either way, that's rather 
>>>>> interesting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 February 2017 at 07:54, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Someone posted numbers on the Logback user’s list that match mine.  It 
>>>>> shows Logback 1.1.9 was pretty terrible, 1.1.10 is somewhat better and 
>>>>> 1.2-SNAPSHOT is on par or slightly better than Log4j 2.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think we need some comparisons on the log4j side: file appender with 
>>>>>> 256k buffer size, random access file appender with 256k buffer size 
>>>>>> (which appears to be the default), and memory mapped file appender. It'd 
>>>>>> be cool to see how these compose with async logging enabled in both 
>>>>>> log4j and logback.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5 February 2017 at 16:06, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> You should run the code at https://github.com/ceki/logback-perf 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/ceki/logback-perf> to compare your results to 
>>>>>> Ceki’s.  You also should capture the cpubenchmark speed of your 
>>>>>> processor and get the speed of your hard drive. I used Blackmagic speed 
>>>>>> test on my Mac. I am capturing my results in a Google spreadsheet. I 
>>>>>> will post the like once I have it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you want, I can run tests on Windows once the build works on Windows 
>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Let me know what args/command line...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017 11:58 AM, "Apache" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I guess my MacBook Pro must fit in the Slow CPU/Fast Hard drive 
>>>>>>> category. With Logback 1.10 and -t 4  now get
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode  Samples        
>>>>>>> Score       Error  Units
>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt       20    
>>>>>>> 98187.673 ±  4935.712  ops/s
>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt       20   
>>>>>>> 842374.496 ±  6762.712  ops/s
>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt       20  
>>>>>>> 1853062.583 ± 67032.225  ops/s
>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt       20  
>>>>>>> 2036011.226 ± 53208.281  ops/s
>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt       20   
>>>>>>> 999667.438 ± 12074.003  ops/s
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ll have to try this on one my VMs at work. We don’t run anything 
>>>>>>> directly on bare metal any more.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ceki finally fixed some of the performance problems in the 
>>>>>>>> FileAppender. See https://logback.qos.ch/news.html 
>>>>>>>> <https://logback.qos.ch/news.html> and 
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qnyye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qnyye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0>.
>>>>>>>>  I suspect we have a few optimizations we can make.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>
>> 

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