The append method isn’t synchronized but the writeBytes method acquires a lock. 
His code is actually a lot simpler than ours in that it just uses a 
BufferedOutputStream and he only obtains the lock when he is writing to it.

Ralph

> On Feb 6, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure if I'm looking in the right place, but a major difference now 
> between Logback's appenders and Log4j's is that Logback isn't synchronized on 
> the append method.
> 
> On 6 February 2017 at 18:18, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Is this something we can improve performance on by implementing a file 
> appender based on FileChannel or AsynchronousFileChannel instead of 
> OutputStream?
> 
> On 6 February 2017 at 17:50, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> Ceki has updated his numbers to include those reported on the mailing list. 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qnyye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0
>  
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qnyye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0>
> 
> I haven’t run the tests with Logback 1.2-SNAPSHOT but my numbers for my two 
> MacBooks are at 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L67IhmUVvyLBWtC6iq0TMj-j0vrbKsUKWuZV0Nlqisk/edit?usp=sharing
>  
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L67IhmUVvyLBWtC6iq0TMj-j0vrbKsUKWuZV0Nlqisk/edit?usp=sharing>.
>  
> 
> Ralph
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, that is still the standard approach most people use and is the only way 
>> to provide a head-to-head comparison against the logging frameworks.
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:02 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is all in a synchronous appender, right? Either way, that's rather 
>>> interesting.
>>> 
>>> On 6 February 2017 at 07:54, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>> Someone posted numbers on the Logback user’s list that match mine.  It 
>>> shows Logback 1.1.9 was pretty terrible, 1.1.10 is somewhat better and 
>>> 1.2-SNAPSHOT is on par or slightly better than Log4j 2.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think we need some comparisons on the log4j side: file appender with 
>>>> 256k buffer size, random access file appender with 256k buffer size (which 
>>>> appears to be the default), and memory mapped file appender. It'd be cool 
>>>> to see how these compose with async logging enabled in both log4j and 
>>>> logback.
>>>> 
>>>> On 5 February 2017 at 16:06, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>> You should run the code at https://github.com/ceki/logback-perf 
>>>> <https://github.com/ceki/logback-perf> to compare your results to Ceki’s.  
>>>> You also should capture the cpubenchmark speed of your processor and get 
>>>> the speed of your hard drive. I used Blackmagic speed test on my Mac. I am 
>>>> capturing my results in a Google spreadsheet. I will post the like once I 
>>>> have it.
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want, I can run tests on Windows once the build works on Windows 
>>>>> again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let me know what args/command line...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017 11:58 AM, "Apache" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>> I guess my MacBook Pro must fit in the Slow CPU/Fast Hard drive category. 
>>>>> With Logback 1.10 and -t 4  now get
>>>>> 
>>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode  Samples        
>>>>> Score       Error  Units
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt       20    
>>>>> 98187.673 ±  4935.712  ops/s
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt       20   
>>>>> 842374.496 ±  6762.712  ops/s
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt       20  
>>>>> 1853062.583 ± 67032.225  ops/s
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt       20  
>>>>> 2036011.226 ± 53208.281  ops/s
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt       20   
>>>>> 999667.438 ± 12074.003  ops/s
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ll have to try this on one my VMs at work. We don’t run anything 
>>>>> directly on bare metal any more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ceki finally fixed some of the performance problems in the FileAppender. 
>>>>>> See https://logback.qos.ch/news.html <https://logback.qos.ch/news.html> 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qnyye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qnyye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0>.
>>>>>>  I suspect we have a few optimizations we can make.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>
>> 
> 
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