I looked at 1.2-SNAPSHOT and 1.1.10 and saw nothing special other than a
lack of a synchronized keyword on the equivalent append method. Perhaps he
figured out a simpler way to emulate locking?

I've been working with async/non-blocking streaming APIs for long enough
now that I can't even remember the last time I had to write an actual lock.

On 6 February 2017 at 22:02, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Logback 1.2-SNAPSHOT
>
> Ralph
>
> On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:29 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry what 1.2 do you mean?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 7, 2017, at 11:06, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> In 1.2?  That may work for a FileOutputStream but it isn’t guaranteed to
> work for others.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Feb 6, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if I'm looking in the right place, but a major difference now
> between Logback's appenders and Log4j's is that Logback isn't synchronized
> on the append method.
>
> On 6 February 2017 at 18:18, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is this something we can improve performance on by implementing a file
>> appender based on FileChannel or AsynchronousFileChannel instead of
>> OutputStream?
>>
>> On 6 February 2017 at 17:50, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ceki has updated his numbers to include those reported on the mailing
>>> list. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qnyye4W0
>>> RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0
>>>
>>> I haven’t run the tests with Logback 1.2-SNAPSHOT but my numbers for my
>>> two MacBooks are at https://docs.google.com/spread
>>> sheets/d/1L67IhmUVvyLBWtC6iq0TMj-j0vrbKsUKWuZV0Nlqisk/edit?usp=sharing.
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, that is still the standard approach most people use and is the only
>>> way to provide a head-to-head comparison against the logging frameworks.
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:02 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is all in a synchronous appender, right? Either way, that's rather
>>> interesting.
>>>
>>> On 6 February 2017 at 07:54, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Someone posted numbers on the Logback user’s list that match mine.  It
>>>> shows Logback 1.1.9 was pretty terrible, 1.1.10 is somewhat better and
>>>> 1.2-SNAPSHOT is on par or slightly better than Log4j 2.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think we need some comparisons on the log4j side: file appender with
>>>> 256k buffer size, random access file appender with 256k buffer size (which
>>>> appears to be the default), and memory mapped file appender. It'd be cool
>>>> to see how these compose with async logging enabled in both log4j and
>>>> logback.
>>>>
>>>> On 5 February 2017 at 16:06, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You should run the code at https://github.com/ceki/logback-perf to
>>>>> compare your results to Ceki’s.  You also should capture the cpubenchmark
>>>>> speed of your processor and get the speed of your hard drive. I used
>>>>> Blackmagic speed test on my Mac. I am capturing my results in a Google
>>>>> spreadsheet. I will post the like once I have it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want, I can run tests on Windows once the build works on
>>>>> Windows again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know what args/command line...
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017 11:58 AM, "Apache" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess my MacBook Pro must fit in the Slow CPU/Fast Hard drive
>>>>>> category. With Logback 1.10 and -t 4  now get
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode  Samples
>>>>>>   Score       Error  Units
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt       20
>>>>>> 98187.673 ±  4935.712  ops/s
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt       20
>>>>>> 842374.496 ±  6762.712  ops/s
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt       20
>>>>>> 1853062.583 ± 67032.225  ops/s
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt       20
>>>>>> 2036011.226 ± 53208.281  ops/s
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt       20
>>>>>> 999667.438 ± 12074.003  ops/s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ll have to try this on one my VMs at work. We don’t run anything
>>>>>> directly on bare metal any more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ceki finally fixed some of the performance problems in the
>>>>>> FileAppender. See https://logback.qos.ch/news.html and
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qny
>>>>>> ye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0. I suspect we have a
>>>>>> few optimizations we can make.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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