obrigado, cifuentes, pela indicação do livro! não o conhecia, não. já o baixei para dar uma olhada mais detida.
On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 12:33 PM, josé carlos cifuentes <[email protected]> wrote: > Há um "velho" livro de Stephen Toulmin intitulado "Na examination of the > place of reason in ethics" (Cambridge University Press, 1960). > Cifuentes > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Livre > de vírus. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>. > <#m_8332355868718184529_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > 2017-06-10 19:53 GMT-03:00 Marcos Silva <[email protected]>: > >> caros, >> >> há alguns bons meses circulei uns emails em listas de filosofia e logica >> para tentar receber indicações bibliográficas a respeito de uma relação >> pouco explorada, mas, em minha opinião, seminal entre lógica e ética. >> >> a minha investigação foi motivada em parte por uma frase frequentemente >> atribuída a peirce, 'lógica é a ética do pensamento' e em outra parte, por >> uma tentativa recorrente minha de pensar a natureza da normatividade da >> razão no difícil contexto do pluralismo lógico. >> >> para quem tiver curiosidade, abaixo está uma lista de respostas (muito >> boas) que recebi. >> >> acho que, com a devida 'open-mindness' e diligência, elas podem >> representar bons pontos de partida para futuros projetos. >> >> abraços, >> marcos >> >> ++++ >> >> Dear Professor Silva, >> >> At the moment at least, I cannot locate any passage where Peirce would >> have used exactly the words you cited. That line ("Logic is the ethics of >> thinking") is found in T. L. Short’s book on Peirce’s theory of signs, but >> I suspect that what you have in mind is a statement that Frank Ramsey >> reportedly attributed to Peirce (“logic is the ethics of thinking, in the >> sense in which ethics is the bringing to bear of self-control for the >> purpose of realizing our desires”). I. A Richards mentions it in a couple >> of places, but without providing a source. I has occasionally been repeated >> in the literature – attributed to Peirce, but again without citing the >> original source. >> >> As far as I can tell, it is a paraphrase rather than a direct quote – >> but it is quite possible that the exact phrase can be found in somewhere >> Peirce’s vast corpus, much of which has not been published. In any case, >> the following quotes (especially the second, from an unpublished >> manuscript) capture the sentiment: >> >> >> >> · Logic is the theory of self-controlled, or deliberate, >> thought; and as such, must appeal to ethics for its principles. It also >> depends upon phenomenology and upon mathematics. All thought being >> performed by means of signs, logic may be regarded as the science of the >> general laws of signs. (Syllabus of a course of Lectures at the Lowell >> Institute, EP 2:260) >> >> >> >> · The purpose and utility of logic […] lies in its final >> achievement of a methodeutic for the guidance of thought; and from this >> point of view logic is the theory of the self-control of thought in order >> to realize its intention, which is truth. So regarded, logic may be called >> a special kind of ethics, if by ethics we mean the theory of the >> self-control of conduct in order to realize a deliberately adopted purpose. >> For inquiry is only a particular kind of conduct. (On Classification of the >> Sciences, MS 602:8) >> >> >> >> I copied these from the on-line Peirce quotation dictionary that I am >> compiling; you will find it here: http://www.commens.org/dictionary. >> >> >> >> I hope this is of help. >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Mats Bergman >> >> University of Helsinki >> >> >> >> ++++ >> >> > [...] >> > >> > Quaisquer sugestões de textos acerca deste tópico entre ligações entre >> > lógica e moral são bem-vindas também. >> >> Você provavelmente já conhece, mas talvez valha a pena lembrar: >> >> https://revistas.ufrj.br/index.php/analytica/article/viewFile/528/483 >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/dwwkm1gf4fezypy/poggianipeirces_ >> normative_foundation_of_logic2012.pdf?dl=0 >> >> Hermógenes Oliveira >> >> ++++ >> >> >> >> Dear Marcus, >> >> >> >> This phrase occurs in Husserl's Logical Investigations, vol 1, pg 43. "He >> [the logician] aims not at a physics, but an ethics of thinking." The first >> three chapters of LI are much concerned with the idea of logic as a >> normative science, which be of use for your project. >> >> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a8ztwpusol7qdb2/Husserl_-_Logical_ >> Investigations%2C_Vol._I1901.pdf?dl=0 >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Tudor Protopopescu >> >> >> >> ++++ >> >> >> >> Hi Marcos >> >> >> >> Arthur Prior’s book (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1956) is a good place to >> start for relevant reading on the general topic. >> >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Paul Coates >> >> >> >> ++++ >> >> >> >> Dear Marcos, >> >> The exact reference for the sentence you quoted is page 63 of T.L. >> Short., 2007. *Peirce's Theory of Signs*. Cambridge: Cambridge >> University Press. As far as I know, Peirce did not wrote "Logic is the >> ethics of thinking" but, to be sure, he conveyed something akin in *The >> Essential Peirce* Vol 2, page 42: "For if, as pragmatism teaches us, >> what we think is to be interpreted in terms of what we are prepared to do, >> then surely logic, or the doctrine of what we ought to think, must be an >> application of the doctrine of what we deliberately choose to do, which is >> Ethics." >> >> Best regards, >> >> Jaime *Alfaro Iglesias* >> >> >> >> *++++* >> >> >> >> Dear Marcos, >> >> >> >> I received your email to PHILOS-L. I am working on my thesis about >> reasons for action. However, naturally these debates take me to questions >> about reasons in general too. One paper came to my mind regarding logic. >> Attached you may find it. I enjoyed reading it. Hope it be useful. >> >> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gv5iclvja46qja/CorcoranInseparabi >> lity%20of%20logic%20and%20ethics%201989.pdf?dl=0 >> >> >> >> Yours, >> >> Seyyed Ardakani >> >> >> >> >> 2017-02-18 13:16 GMT-03:00 Marcos Silva <[email protected]>: >> >>> Caros, >>> >>> alguém poderia me indicar as referências exatas de texto do Peirce onde >>> ele afirma, se é que afirmou mesmo, que "logic is the ethics of thinking"? >>> >>> Se as referências viessem com o texto propriamente dito em alguma versão >>> pdf ficaria ainda mais grato. :-) >>> >>> ++++ >>> >>> Quaisquer sugestões de textos acerca deste tópico entre ligações entre >>> lógica e moral são bem-vindas também. >>> >>> A competente entrada recente do steinberger na sep ( >>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-normative/) é um dos meus >>> pontos de partida para esta temática. >>> >>> Tô tentando elaborar um projeto de pesquisa conectando discussões sobre >>> normatividade e pluralismo lógico. >>> >>> Abraços, >>> Marcos >>> >>> -- >>> Marcos Silva >>> https://sites.google.com/site/marcossilvarj/ >>> Philosophie macht Spaß! >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Marcos Silva >> https://sites.google.com/site/marcossilvarj/ >> Philosophie macht Spaß! >> >> -- >> Você recebeu essa mensagem porque está inscrito no grupo "LOGICA-L" dos >> Grupos do Google. >> Para cancelar inscrição nesse grupo e parar de receber e-mails dele, >> envie um e-mail para [email protected]. >> Para postar nesse grupo, envie um e-mail para [email protected]. >> Acesse esse grupo em https://groups.google.com/a/di >> map.ufrn.br/group/logica-l/. >> Para ver essa discussão na Web, acesse https://groups.google.com/a/di >> map.ufrn.br/d/msgid/logica-l/CAGZ3pzKVYDqSJugxErnLjWfWGauq9% >> 2BxfjtaskbkddyT7OXQm%3DA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/a/dimap.ufrn.br/d/msgid/logica-l/CAGZ3pzKVYDqSJugxErnLjWfWGauq9%2BxfjtaskbkddyT7OXQm%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > -- > Você recebeu essa mensagem porque está inscrito no grupo "LOGICA-L" dos > Grupos do Google. > Para cancelar inscrição nesse grupo e parar de receber e-mails dele, envie > um e-mail para [email protected]. > Para postar nesse grupo, envie um e-mail para [email protected]. > Acesse esse grupo em https://groups.google.com/a/ > dimap.ufrn.br/group/logica-l/. > Para ver essa discussão na Web, acesse https://groups.google.com/a/ > dimap.ufrn.br/d/msgid/logica-l/CAEQwYASJmKsUgg9a6cSZuYxrDoKED > mOYK3ywu7ZAaQQkJZkekA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/dimap.ufrn.br/d/msgid/logica-l/CAEQwYASJmKsUgg9a6cSZuYxrDoKEDmOYK3ywu7ZAaQQkJZkekA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Marcos Silva https://sites.google.com/site/marcossilvarj/ Philosophie macht Spaß! -- Você está recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo "LOGICA-L" dos Grupos do Google. 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