Re: Hey!!!!

[John A. Lappart]

Dana   I suspect that Gregg is not recieving from the Platformm list.   I have ask him several time to confirm wither he was, but he has not answered.    jal ----- Original Message ----- From: Dana ACLP To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Hey!!!! Okay guys. We can go ahead & submit the work that is done. We need a vote from you John on whether we will make Gregg Chairperson.  I say Paul is probably working or not around right now. I have a mailbox full of e-mail would you like some of it? :) All messages received today are going straight to the Platform list, and most messages I receive is being sent to that list.  Can we drop it & take things with a "grain of salt" ?   Apparently the reason Gregg didn't respond to your e-mails John was b/c his wife & daughter had to be taken up to the hospital. Now things are doing better for them & he responded this morning to those e-mails. So may we get on with the Chairman vote.....:)     Thanks, Dana ----- Original Message ----- From: John A. Lappart To: Gregg Miller Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Hey!!!!   You did not send replys to the messages I sent you.   if there was even twenty messages to the platform committee then I did not recieve them.  Did Dana or Paul???   jal    PS   You are still not sending these to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregg Miller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: Re: Hey!!!! No, I've responded to hundreds of messages.  You should think about principles & priorities (& grammar) if you want to be taken seriously.    Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: John A. Lappart To: Gregg Miller Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: Re: Hey!!!! Gregg    I sent you a number of communications specificly asking you to make a responce.   That doesn't mean a insult.     When I sent the first message to you saying that I did notn like your draft, that was not a insult that was a shor and to the point message and I expected that you would discuss the reasons with the whole group.   You made no reply to the group or to me.   That is not taking a part in a discussion.   I can understand that you may have taken that personally and gotten you feeling hurt.   I believed that we had a better sypathic channel of communication, and, I could just send that message to you, and you would understand it to indicate that I wished to talk it over with you.   I believe that had we all been sitting at the same table you would ahve understood my intentions.   Since you did not reply to that communication and the several others, I did not know what to believe.     jal  ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregg Miller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Hey!!!! It means that I've been part of the group from its inception, so why are you making this charge against me?    Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: John A. Lappart To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Gregg Miller Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Hey!!!! What is that supposed to mean? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregg Miller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: Hey!!!! Hey, John, wake up!  Part of the group?  Get a grip!    Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: John A. Lappart To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Hey!!!! The problem I have with Gregg is that he has not responded to being part of the group in the past.   This is not a indication that I don't like Gregg, don't take it personally, we need to interact.   I realize that the lack of leadship from Vance, Steves defection and detractions of our lives has caused this.   I do believe we need a couple more members of this group, who are truly interested.   I'm not really saying Nay at this time.  ----- Original Message ----- From: Dana ACLP To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Hey!!!! I vote yay for Gregg being the chair of the committee. Dana ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregg Miller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mike Seebeck Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Hey!!!!      Well, do you want me to chair the committee until we get a finished platform, maybe in a few months, & then when that first stage is done, have the next spring chicken handle whatever seems to be the next step?    Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: Dana ACLP To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Re: Hey!!!! Hi Gregg I hope your family is doing okay now. Some of us tend to get impatient with one another.  Like I said before I do not know what caused the outburst over "abortion" I just know that it happened. I don't have a problem with what your Platform states I said though b/c it caused such outcry that it might be wise to "chuck" that part of it is all.   The following is the actual word's of the platform. Please do not read your "old" Platforms. National has revised the Platform over the last year and you need to get your Platform info from the Platform online site.   Now we are supposed to discuss this among ourselves.Yes we need someone to head the committee. Who will it be...I personally don't know how to write a Platform. I do know though how to keep thing's on track & keep us  productive. Remember with Convention & raising fund's I have a full plate already. And on weekends I cannot get back with you. I work all weekend starting on Friday. So lets pick someone & be on our way guy's....   I know we don't want to ignore the issues but we need to be vague. That way candidates don't get stuck with something twisted. I liked Greggs Platform & didn't see anything wrong with it. I suggested we take out the word abortion is all. Just to stay on the safe side of the controversy.   Now I want to say something-recently I found out that National will be holding convention & electing someone to be "a presidential candidate" if this is the case. I hope to encourage full support of the candidate & that we pour our energy into getting this candidate elected. This is our ultimate goal, not your house of representative, senator, congressman. So what does the LPCO do in presidential election years????   Thanks, Dana         Nationals Platform:.  Individual Rights and Civil Order Women's Rights and Abortion We hold that individual rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of sex. We call for repeal of all laws discriminating against women, such as protective labor laws and marriage or divorce laws which deny the full rights of men and women. We oppose all laws likely to impose restrictions on free choice and private property or to widen tyranny through reverse discrimination. Recognizing that abortion is a very sensitive issue and that people, including libertarians, can hold good-faith views on both sides, we believe the government should be kept out of the question. We condemn state-funded and state-mandated abortions. It is particularly harsh to force someone who believes that abortion is murder to pay for another's abortion. It is the right and obligation of the pregnant woman, not the state, to decide the desirability or appropriateness of prenatal testing, Caesarean births, fetal surgery, voluntary surrogacy arrangements, and/or home births. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregg Miller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Hey!!!! Dana, National deals with the issue.  I believe that we must in some way deal with all Colorado issues.  We may find ways to improve positions, but we should not ignore any.    Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: Dana ACLP To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: Hey!!!! Where is the committee? Are we going to ignore eachother or what? John, Gregg, Paul -Are you all there? How about dropping the abortion word out of the Health part of the Platform??? I vote yay to remove the word.   Thanks, Dana