On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 10:35 AM Simone Piccardi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Il 05/08/19 15:48, Bryan J Smith ha scritto: > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 9:44 AM Simone Piccardi <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Sorry, but I strongly disagree, any sysadmin I know is capable to > > use vi > > to do the minimal editing needed in such cases, and capable to set > the > > editor he prefers for the rest. Nobody I know is using vi (vi, not > vim) > > for more than this. > > > > > > All the proof we need to validate that is should be a very strongly > > weighted item then, correct? > > > > > Sorry again for my poor english, but I'm not sure I'm understanding what > you are meaning here, but as I already said I strongly disagree on > having vi as "a very strongly weighted item". > And I feel some of your statements on why actually bolster the argument for it being a heavily weighted item. LPIC-1 is to test professionals on the most common experience and most needed tooling. We may different on the latter (most needed tooling), but I believe we agree on the former (most common experience). To assess the capability to do minimal editing with vi one question is > enough. More are excessive (except if you want to use vi as a sort of > "rite of passage" like Anselm said). > But is not the common 'rite of passage' just a symptom of the realities that Vi knowledge is one of the major needs of any GNU/Linux (or POSIX) sysadmin? There are many topics in LPIC-1 and lot of knowledge to validate, so > what to ask is a matter of weights. Giving more weight to vi means > giving less to other topics that also deserve validation. > And I'm fine with that. Vi is pretty much defacto required to be GNU/Linux sysadmin, both for commonality among peers as well as need in minimal environments, including modes tested in LPIC-2 like emergency. Anyway I think we can stop, and agree on our disagreement over the fact > that vi should have more importance than text filters. > I think text filters should be at least two (2). But Vi is going to be used more outside of automation, hence why it gets a three (3). As always, my views are my own only, made as an individual peer. - bjs
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