[ I'm forking this discussion into a new arc, which is more viable of a discussion IMPO ]
On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 12:29 PM Anselm Lingnau <[email protected]> wrote: > Big deal. 10 minutes with vimtutor should fix that. > All the more reason for the 10 minutes VIMtutor to be part of any LPIC-1 course. ;) Just like 10 minute tutorials on ... - Regex/Sed - Piping/Redirection - Yum-RPM - Apt-DPKG - Etc... Again, I try to 'see the other side.' So, I would strongly make the case that if we're going to take away things from the history of 'interactive break-fix,; we should really looking at changing LPIC-1. Here are some of my ideas ... A) New 101 + 102 focus ... Make 101 the 'common denominator' with a new set of optional 102, 103, etc... exams. 102 - anything legacy we want to demote or remove from 101+102, like ViM, interactive tools, MySQL/MariaDB stuff that comes up often, etc... 103 - a new automation/orchestration option, even add some more DB tooling and other things 'in the real world' for junior admins? Again, the MySQL/MariaDB stuff comes up regularly too. B) Alternative 111 + 112 track ... This would be a new 'automation/orchestration' track, that is purely non-interactive Others? > We should certainly not suggest to candidates that in 2019, vi is an > editor > that is recommended to use day in, day out, especially for editing non- > configuration files in non-emergencies. (Vim might be.) I think you're making this too much about Vi v. ViM. If you want to say there should only be Vi (and not ViM) on the objectives, point made. I utterly agree. But it must be known in the 'interactive' focused exams/tracks. In any case, I think this is far more about than just Vi. - bjs
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