On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 5:52 PM Bryan J Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just like oVirt hyperconverged and the concept of adding another node to
> get more compute + storage.  At some point one wants to just manage ones
> own CEPH, instead of using a basic CEPH RBD or GlusterFS or other 'easy to
> setup' option.
>

Again, I'm purposely talking FLOSS, for a reason.

If we want to talk SMB 'products,' then it's called Red Hat Hyperconverged
Infrastructure (RHHI).  It's compute + storage 'sold' in a  in 3, 6, 9 and
12 'packs' -- usually directly from the PC OEM Server vendor with a 'pack'
of disks and 'subscriptions' based on sockets (or cores).  You can even get
by it pre-setup on your new Dell, HP and Lenovo servers, let alone Tier-2
which are commonly SuperMicro-based.  [1]

This is where all the 'salesy-SKUs' come out.  Although VMware does try to
'freeze out' Red Hat at PC OEMs, but you can get it at the Tier-1s.  ;)

FLOSS-wise ... it's basically oVirt (Red Hat Virtualization, RHV) and
GlusterFS (Red Hat Gluster Storage, RHGS) bundled, and they already use the
same GUI, like most Red Hat developed 'Infrastructure' technologies (and
products).  I.e., If you've seen the Red Hat GUI of any 'Infrastructure'
product, like Satellite v6, CloudForms (of which IBM Cloud Manager is being
absorbed by), Virtualization (RHV), OpenShift, et al., you've seen them all.

That said, *no*one* users 'virt-manager' in Enterprises, or even SMBs, with
Red Hat (or CentOS).  If you do, I'm going to smack you with the virtual
brick, usually by what I call "Shaming w/Training."  I.e., when I see
comments on this list at times, I'm like, "You do realize you're ignoring
the majority of the paid Linux market, and that's a market our candidates
really might want to have a well paying job in."

Same for 'buying' RHEL.

I.e., when people 'buy' Red Hat 'entitlements,' if they buy per-socket (or
newer per-core) virtualization, then they get RHV 'for free.'
E.g., it's up to them if they want to run it atop of VMware ESXi, or they
want to save a crapload of money and just use RHV-H instead.

Again, that's why one can get RHV-H 'from the factory' in their server, and
just 'add them' to the network after it's delivered, with their existing
entitlements.

I personally love it when people ask me, "Why is your vSphere interface so
clean?  I like how you've designed this network and storage and other
details!"
(Me:  "It's not vSphere")

- bjs

P.S.  I think I need to check out of the discussion now.  I'm sounding like
a broken record to myself.  ;)

[1] Red Hat Hyperconverged Infrastructure (RHHI)
 - https://access.redhat.com/products/red-hat-hyperconverged-infrastructure
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