Hello everybody, enjoy the madness. A few, quick notes.
1) I would not restore mention of the info pages. Nothing has happened in the past years that could make them relevant again, which means the reasons they were yanked are just as valid today.
2) Administrative Permissions is clear to everyone what they are and is common parlance in the workplace; for the sake of clarity I would not drop it, I'd rather drop the us (Linux people) vs. them (Windows users) mentality.
3) syslog (in any of its implementations) I'm not sure if it still makes sense to have: are there any major distros that install it by default and use it as the primary system log service? I do use it on my machines, but I have to install it myself. I do not expect basic users to do that.
4) id does nothing like last does: it only gives out basic information about a user, it says nothing about it's login times and source IP for logins over the network. Viceversa, last cannot be used to get the information id yields.
5) Chapter 5.1 is specific to the use of ssh, I think the description should mention this. Also, I think it's time we drop or mark as deprecated the scp command and use sftp in it's place(1).
6) Define 'digital autonomy' 😁 (please)7) I cannot make up my mind concerning the inclusion of a mention of Android and derivates/replacements: they are not a Linux OS, they are separate OSes built on a custom Linux kernel, I would like we do not contribute in amplifying the confusion between the two. On the other hand, smartphones are more widely used than laptops or desktops, including them might make Linux Essentials more popular. But then again, Android and the like, they are structured and used in a very different way compared with a regular Linux distribution, their use on the command line is awkward and very rare, only geeks do it.
I am 60% against including them and 40% in favour. I think Android deserves it's own, separate, certification. Alessandro Selli ______ Note: 1) The reasons to drop scp are those detailed in: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/openssh-scp-deprecation-rhel-9-what-you-need-know and https://lwn.net/Articles/835962/ On 06/01/26 08:27, Jeroen Baten via lpi-examdev wrote:
Addendum: * Maybe add a section, weight 1, on phone/tablet operating systems? Android, UBports, some more? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_mobile_devices) Op 06-01-2026 om 08:13 schreef Jeroen Baten via lpi-examdev:Hi,First, best wishes to everybody on this list. Let's make sure we continue to make the world more open.Okay, here's my 2 cents, or flame bate, whatever you want to call it :-) I would propose the following changes: * Change 'VS Code' to 'VS Code/Codium'. Better would of course be only Codium :-). * Change Gitea to Forgejo. Also because the governing structure with Codeberg is better. Maybe add a topic on how to distinguish between governing structures (company vs foundation). * Change MariaDB, MySQL to MariaDB, PostgreSQL * Restore the term 'info pages'? * Change 'processors (x86, ARM)' to 'processors (x86, ARM, Risc-V)'. * Change journalctl, dmesg to include syslog. Not every system in the world is in the systemd ecosystem (yet). * Change 'Administrative Permissions' to 'Elevated Permissions' to keep in line with Linux/Unix parlance. It's not Windows. * Change 'log into remote systems for accessing a Linux shell and transferring files using SSH' to 'log into remote systems for accessing a Linux shell using SSH and transferring files using SCP', or remove the commands and make it: 'SECURELY log into remote systems and securely transferring files'. * Change 'id, last, who, w' to 'id'. It is still LPI ESSENTIALS, not LPIC-1. * Add a small section on 'digital autonomy'?LPI Essentials is introductory, easy, not for systadmins but for someone with a general interest in Linux and open source. In practice it is currently also for schools, as in my country most teachers are still pretty brain washed in the world of W. So, please keep it easy.Regards, Jeroen Baten Op 05-01-2026 om 21:06 schreef Fabian Thorns via lpi-examdev:Hi there,I hope you've all had a good start into the new year, despite the world getting more mad every day. We'll focus on the sane stuff and start working on an update for Linux Essentials in 2026. I've created a draft for the new objectives, which I'd like to share with you today.The current version of the draft is available in the LPI wiki: https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/Linux_Essentials_Objectives_V2.0There is also diff between the current version 1.6 and the initial draft for version 2.0:https://wiki.lpi.org/w/index.php?title=Linux_Essentials_Objectives_V2.0&diff=5878&oldid=5877 <https://wiki.lpi.org/w/index.php?title=Linux_Essentials_Objectives_V2.0&diff=5878&oldid=5877>A lot of the changes are improvements in the descriptions and objective/topic names. The overall outline and weights hasn't changed, but some objectives were restructured and received updates, i.e. regarding Linux distributions and using Linux in the cloud. I've also added SSH and systemctl and journalctl, while syslog and net-utils are gone now.I'd appreciate you taking a look at the proposed changes, i.e. if you're teaching Linux Essentials, but, of course, everyone is invited to review the draft. If you have any additional suggestions or comments, please feel follow up on the list or privately.Looking forward to your thoughts, Fabian -- Fabian Thorns <[email protected]> GPG: F1426B12 Director of Product Development, Linux Professional Institute _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing list [email protected] https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev-- Jeroen Baten | EMAIL :[email protected] ____ _ __ | web :www.i2rs.nl | )|_)(_ | tel : +31 (0)648519096 _|_/_| \__) | Frisolaan 16, 4101 JK, Culemborg, the Netherlands _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing list [email protected] https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev-- Jeroen Baten | EMAIL :[email protected] ____ _ __ | web :www.i2rs.nl | )|_)(_ | tel : +31 (0)648519096 _|_/_| \__) | Frisolaan 16, 4101 JK, Culemborg, the Netherlands _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing list [email protected] https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
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