Hi all, Fernando Lozano said the following on 19.06.2006 18:15: > Hi Bryan, > >> If the focus right now is to get 2 exams, just any 2 exams, out for >> LPIC-3 that just cover whatever software is popular -- then I'll just >> keep my mouth shut. Because if that is the case, we should just do the >> Samba and Security exams various people have been talking about since >> 2005 or so. >> >> But if the focus is to build a base examination for Linux enterprises -- >> where Linux is not merely a participant as a "department server" -- but >> an interoperating base of enterprise services for various network >> capabilities and clients, you have got to look at making LPI 301 the >> _core_ services -- authentication, directory and naming. >> >> > > I agree with most you said, but I think your proposal for > auth/dir/naming has too much wide scope and that it is a step too big > from the level-2 certification. [...] > So a candidate could apply for LPI-301 (naming/auth) then LPI-302 > (Samba), then LPI-303 (LDAP) and endup with LPI-304 (security -- port > scan, ids, cas). LPI-301 plus any other would qualify for a "labeled" > LPICP-3 certification, for example LPICP-3-Samba or LPICP-3-Directory, > and employees could ask for someone who is both LPICP-3-Samba and > LPICP-3-Security, for example.
I thought it was rather clear, that we are talking about 2 first exams not only one: https://group.lpi.org/cgi-bin/publicwiki/view/Examdev/LPIC-3#First_Exams I agree with Fernando that the exam proposed by Bryan is to wide and not a necessary core exam for LPIC-3. IMHO there won't be a core LPIC-3 exam because the specialisations are too different. Right now we should hurry and get the proposed tasks for the surveys done for https://group.lpi.org/cgi-bin/publicwiki/view/Examdev/LPIC-3LDAP (no tasks entered at all) and https://group.lpi.org/cgi-bin/publicwiki/view/Examdev/LPIC-3Samba (a lot of task entered but the client issue is still under discussion) [...] > I don't see a need for a general file services exam, because I see the > demand here is for samba-specific knowledge, not for nfs or afs or gfs > specific knowledge, but if there's such a perceived need outside Brazil > I'd propose a LPI-306 (file services) that covers everything except > samba, and would add things like rsync to regular network/distributed > file system stuff. That would be the place to add things like extended > attributes and posix acls, and maybe lvm and raid. But maybe this stuff > would be better placed as a revision to the current level-2 certification. If you look at the (short) history of the wiki pages you will see that it started as File Sharing Services ;-). I agree that at the moment other file services do not make sense: we shouldn't certify anything that employers do not need. > > I also think in a short time there will be a need for a > LPIC-3-Virtualization certification. In https://group.lpi.org/cgi-bin/publicwiki/view/Examdev/LPIC-3FutureExams you'll see that XEN is already proposed by Ralph Dehner. [...] > > Taki, is all I said in this message coherent with LPI plans for level 3? Well, as far as I'm concerned, I'd say yes but I'm not LPI :-D Let's hear what Matt has to say, too! > > I'd love to hire someone with all skill for all LPIC-3-* I proposed, but > I recognize employees would most of the time be interested in a subset > of those qualifications, or would want to know who is a security expert, > or a samba expert, or a whatever expert, and so a fragmented (I called > "labeled") approach would serve better than an all-on-one "enterprise" > level-3 certification. What you describe above is the main idea of the Level 3 certification. At that level an employee would be (almost) always specialised in one technology area and we will offer the certification for that areas. If one masters all Level 3 exams, then we may need to create a Guru certificate.... Best regards, Taki -- Dimitrios Bogiatzoules Product Developer LPIC-2 Linux Professional Institute GnuPG Key ID A7E4D183 http://www.lpi.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lpi-german.de
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