Hi Bryan, I'm only commenting a few sentences of your e-mail below in order to make this easier to read.
Bryan J. Smith said the following on 19.06.2006 21:56: [...] > Unfortunately, I can't built the LDAP exam with this setup. I'm going > to build a generic LDAP exam that has _no_ "real-world" application. > > Unless, of course, you want me to turn the LDAP exam into a generic > auth/dir/name support exam. I can do that, and make a LDAP exam that is > "real-world" but focuses on a lot of things outside of LDAP. [...] I'm not responsible for the LDAP exam but: why not feed the LDAP page as it is and create a new page where your point of view of an auth/dir/name exam is documented? That way we could see if we have any redundancies as you expect them. BTW: I personally am not against *some* redundancy in exams. If you know the stuff then it doesn't matter if you will be asked twice. >> and >> https://group.lpi.org/cgi-bin/publicwiki/view/Examdev/LPIC-3Samba >> (a lot of task entered but the client issue is still under discussion) >> If you look at the (short) history of the wiki pages you will see that >> it started as File Sharing Services ;-). >> I agree that at the moment other file services do not make sense: we >> shouldn't certify anything that employers do not need. > > I honestly thing statements like that is going to flush LPIC-3 down the > toilet. I must live in a fantasy world where people have to support > more than just Windows clients, and they don't like to just "turn on" > NFS where it trusts any system in an IP address range and does no > further authentication and authorization. Sorry, but I can't follow what was wrong with my statement and why it would flush LPIC-3 down the toilet. As far as I can tell Samba was written to support Windows clients and it is used for exactly that. The exam would test Samba centric skills. All farther knowledge is appreciated but not matter of *the* Samba exam... > > If I'm Microsoft, I honestly look at this program and say ... > > "Why get Linux certified if you just know how to connect Windows > clients and nothing else? Our native Windows server solution > supports Windows clients better!" > > And they'd be 100% correct. That's not true, Bryan and you know it. Nobody talked about reducing the Samba exam to a "lets put a Windows peer network together"... I won't continue discussing this topic.- [...] > Yes, this might seem a bit of "devil's advocate," but it's my honest, > professional opinion -- I have to concede it. At this point, I can only > assume this focus on the exams is being driven by marketing by using the > project names like Samba, LDAP, etc... or possibly due to the fact that > some people believe "directory services is hard," etc... I honestly Bryan, in real life certifications are used to apply for a job. The employers tell the market what they need. This is not an matter of marketing but a response to markets demands. The name "Samba" in the exam title is only meaningful as long as the exam covers Samba in its majority. > can't believe people believe only Windows clients are being used with > UNIX/Linux servers out there. [...] Again, Samba is (per definition) serving Windows (and OS/2 ;-) ) clients... Best regards, Taki -- Dimitrios Bogiatzoules Product Developer LPIC-2 Linux Professional Institute GnuPG Key ID A7E4D183 http://www.lpi.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lpi-german.de
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