Matt Rice wrote on 01/20/2012 06:48:41 AM: > From: "G. Matthew Rice" <m...@starnix.com> > To: "This is the lpi-examdev mailing list." <lpi-examdev@lpi.org> > Date: 01/20/2012 06:49 AM > Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] Exam 202: 213.1 LILO troubleshooting > Sent by: lpi-examdev-boun...@lpi.org > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Simone Piccardi <picca...@truelite.it> wrote: > >> Correct. LILO was deemed 'not critical beginner knowledge' any > >> longer. However, an LPIC-2 level person should know how to deal with > > > > I still have some doubt having to maintain knowledge about obsolete and > > unused technology. Today this is no more legacy, it's just unused. > > Hi Simone, > > Your opinion is very valuable. As is everyone's. For example, I > received an e-mail about two weeks ago from someone telling me that > LPI is useless to him now because we dropped LILO from LPIC-1. Here's > a quote from the e-mail (it was private; I did invite him to join this > list and share this opinion but he hasn't surfaced yet): > > /***** quote ******/ > Well, Matt, you've done me a disservice removing LILO from the exam. > > I don't (and do not plan) to ever install the GRUB Operating System on > any of my hundreds of servers. So now new LPIC graduates will have to > be tested by me. I don't/won't hire anyone who doesn't know LILO. > > I can't reevaluate and change hundreds of systems on a whim. I > continue to install LILO today on new servers. > > Can't believe you've allowed this. > > LPIC now means little to me. If they can't get a system to boot using > LILO, all other knowledge is for naught. > /***** end quote *********/ > > So, time for a cage match? ;) > > Regards, > -- > G. Matthew Rice <mr...@lpi.org> gpg id: EF9AAD20
When I updated the boot loader article ( http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-101-2/) in our LPIC-1 exam prep series ( http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-map/index.html) last September, I found that LILO has been completely dropped from several popular distributions. I'm not surprised that it fell into some level of disuse as hardware advanced, but development was restarted in 2010 ( http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/). If LILO regains popularity, it may need to go back to entry level LPI certification, but for now having it in LPIC-2 should be fine. I do think we need to cover GRUB2 in LPIC-1 as it is being used as the default boot loader in more distributions, including Ubuntu and now Fedora 16. On a side note, I recently upgraded a Fedora 15 system to Fedora 16. Previously the Fedora 15 system booted from a partition boot record which was chain loaded from a small GRUB legacy partition that I use to simplify management of a multi-boot system. The upgrade process installed GRUB2, but did not create a core.img file so the upgraded system was not bootable. Took me about 30 minutes of research and head scratching to figure out how to get a core.img created without overwriting my MBR.I do think that recovering from boot problems is a good skill to have. Ian Shields Ph.D. Software Developer : dW Software Engineering IBM Corp Research Triangle Park, NC ishie...@us.ibm.com
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