On 29/01/2014 10:55, Ingo Wichmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 27.01.2014 21:15, schrieb Anselm Lingnau:

[...]

>> Finally, even Ubuntu will probably have to use large swathes of systemd 
>> because other parts of the system require the infrastructure. They may 
>> continue doing without systemd as PID 1, but even that isn't actually 
>> certain. 
>> Right now the Canonical people are trying by hook and by crook to get Debian 
>> to use Upstart as the default init system, but if that doesn't go through 
>> then , Ubuntu too 
>> Upstart is essentially dead; it just hasn't fallen over yet. Upstart has 
>> known 
>> major design shortcomings that have not been addressed for years.
>
> That's not so much an upstart vs. systemd argument. If we want to cover
> systemd more than we do now (see 101.3), then we'll have to introduce a
> bunch of new techniques like socket activation and cgroups.
>
> Adding upstart basics on top of that is not very much content compared to 
> that.

  Well, after Debian
(http://beta.slashdot.org/submission/3276759/bdale-garbee-supports-systemd-as-default-for-debian)
Ubuntu too capitulated:

http://www.zdnet.com/after-linux-civil-war-ubuntu-to-adopt-systemd-7000026373/

  It's going to be a systemd-only world soon.
I think we'd better be ready by the time it will be over (i.e., when the
next stable Debian and Ubuntu releases are out).


  Bye,


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