Four small details however:
Both printers count 2 clicks for a duplexed page regardless of whether it contains one impression or two. This makes sane accounting very difficult.
The yield for ink stix for the 8200 is based on 5% coverage. We seem to be seeing an average of about one forth that yield (presumably 20% coverage).
The good news about maintenance supplies for the 8200 is that there are fewer items (one) than the HP 4550 (three), and that the yield is higher (40,000 pages). The bad news is that there is a counter chip which will disable printing when the maintenance kit hits it's page limit. You had better have a spare on hand!
The 8200 doesn't work well in a low volume environment. The hot wax doesn't like to sit around for long periods of time.
-Rick
Henrik Edlund wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
RN> See, the trouble is, the product lines don't sit still! :) RN> RN> At any rate, I'm in the market for all new printers. Xerox is my RN> front-runner right now, being that they have true Adobe PS (the fake BS RN> has been driving me nuts for months), seem to have good other features, RN> have a nice solid ink printer, etc. RN> RN> However, I am still open to suggestions on other vendors (in fact, I'd RN> like to know from those with experience if Xerox printers work well with RN> LPRng or not). Accounting is a must. Printing is /about/ 100,000 pages per RN> month. Printing limited by IP address should be possible, but it is not RN> ultimately necessary. The Xerox printers I looked at, incidentally, are RN> the 4400 and the color 8200. RN> RN> Also, anyone have any recommendations in the poster printer dept? RN> RN> I looked through the ifhp.conf file, but... a lot of the info in there is RN> out of date and supported printers are not listed but do work with older RN> defs (especially unclear is cases like Tektronix -- their printers worked RN> well, do Xerox's?). RN> RN> Thanks! RN> RN> (PS: I already looked at linuxprinting.org and some other places)
We just bought 15 Xerox Phaser 4400DT, for deployment with students and employees, after testing numerous models from numerous vendors. Reasons for picking the Phaser 4400 over the others:
- SNMP standard compliance (for accounting is) PERFECT, follows RFC PERFECTLY - Sturdy design (few moving plastic hinges) that can handle student use - Easy web interface for configuration - Web interface option for cloning configuration (priceless when getting this many printers!) - Duplex unit mounted inside printer - Good technical support - Easy paper refill, just dump the paper in tray, no "sticking the paper down below some metallic part" if you know what I mean
Reasons for NOT PICKING the latest Canon models:
- SNMP compliance NOT GOOD (returns bad values or 0 on common queries) (Canon said they had a bad implmentation of SNMP that did not follow RFC and went home with tail between their legs)
Reasons for NOT PICKING the latest HP models (like LaserJet 4300):
- Incredible complicated web interface with no config cloning - Lots of moving plastic details that will break easy in a student environment (why like 10 moving hinges when opening front paper feeder when there is only one moving plastic hinge on the Xerox?) - Duplex unit easy to steal, sticking out in the back, easy to remove - We had to pay for the toner used while borrowing and testing a printer (cheap bastards)
We are using in-house developed SNMP accounting. A report about this installation process with LPRng and development and deployment of accounting will be released no later than August this year.
We do not use ifhp, we use in-house filtering scripts and error handling script.
We are the Department of Computer and Information Science, Link�ping University. [This is my private email address I am posting with.]
If getting the Phaser 4400DT, also get the harddisk option with the extra fonts like Times New Roman, Arial and Courier New. This is useful when printing PostScript files, created in a Windows environment where these fonts exists, in a UNIX environment.
Henrik
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