On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 09:05:37PM +0200, [email protected] wrote:
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> i am not talking android, although I think it is strange that google
> with all its money and brainpower has not thought out a scheme for
> updating android removing manufacturers from the loop. given the
> success of project treble, someting better should be made.
All of the various options have tradeoffs. This is true whether the
tradeoffs are technical or economic. The ChromeOS/WearOS is one
alternative along the continuum. Another is something like Project
Treble. There may be other solutions that will be announced in the
future, but the problem is finding something that all of the various
companies will actually agreed to. The ecosystem is large, and it's
not just handset manufacturers. It's also their suppliers, and the
cell phone companies, etc., etc.
> I beg to differ. imho you can design an architecture that isolates
> work and ensures smooth transitions, viz. debian / ubuntu /mint
> update and upgrading framework.
Please go ahead and start a company if you think it is so easy. I
assure you, it isn't.
> on the amd64 platform hw and their drivers are normally well defined.
Even on the amd64 platform there are problems, especially around power
management. My Dell laptop is *still* not working well, and this is
even after I've asked for, and received help, from engineers working
at Dell.
And in the real world, IOT devices, cell phones, and other things
which need to run on small batteries do *not* run on the amd64
platform.
And all of these problems are completely out of the scope of what the
LSB tries to address. So if we're talking about the LSB, it will
*not* solve these problems.
- Ted
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