Tony -

I am not "teasing".
I also don't think this is much of a secret.

I am pretty sure experienced implementers know what I am talking about.
(BTW, I include you in that group. :-) )

I also am pretty sure many of our customers know what I am talking about since 
it is their scale requirements that have forced us to improve our 
implementations.

What I am very concerned about is that we are focused on the wrong problem. We 
don't have a problem flooding a large number of LSPs on a single interface.
We do have a problem flooding the same LSP redundantly on many different links 
in a densely meshed network.

   Les 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Li <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 6:59 PM
> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>
> Cc: Henk Smit <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Subject: Teasing us with secrets
> 
> 
> Les,
> 
> > 1)Whether we should publicly document what smart implementers have done
> is not relevant here (though I appreciate this thread has sparked interest). 
> If
> folks want to discuss this please do so in a separate thread.
> > The only point I am making is that there are implementations which have
> already solved the problems you are trying to address by using TCP and have
> done so w/o requiring protocol extensions. These implementations will not
> benefit from your proposal.
> >
> 
> 
> You are the one who started this thread. You are the one who said that this
> solution is not necessary because you have your own proprietary secret 
> solution
> to the problem.
> 
> You cannot expect anyone to take that position seriously. Other people want
> the problem solved and references to secret solutions is simply teasing.
> 
> Tony

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