Hi Aijun,
I believe that under Option D you can add multihop BFD per RFC 5883. No new
protols needed.

Regards,
Greg

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 18:17 Aijun Wang <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, All:
>
>
>
> As Peter’s example and Acee’s suggestions, let’s focus on the following
> problem to think how to solve it efficiently and reasonably:
>
> Scenario: 100 areas each with 1000 PEs (100K total PEs) with 2 ABRs per
> area
>
> Problem: Overlay services(BGP or Tunnel) that rely on the IGP needs to be
> notified immediately when the remote Peer failed, to assist such overlay
> service accomplish fast switchover(how to switchover is out of the
> discussion)
>
> Potential Solutions:
>
>    There are now mainly four categories of the solutions, as described
> below and their brief analysis:
>
>    Category A: PUA/PULSE. Utilizes the existing IGP mechanism to
> transport/flooding the notification message.
>
>    Category B: Detail/Important Prefixes Leaks. Bypass the summary
> side-effect for some detailed/important prefixes by leaking/not summarize
> them into each area.
>
>    Category C: BGP based solution: Utilize the existing BGP infrastructure
> to transport the notification message
>
>    Category D: OOB Solution. Design some new OOB protocol to transport the
> notification message.
>
>
>
> Because we are in LSR WG, and people are all IGP experts. After the
> intense discussion, can we now focus on the Category A/B?
>
> It is very curious that LSR WG will and should produce some BGP or OOB
> based solution. I think they may be feasible, but should be
> evaluated/discussed by other WGs.
>
> Or else, I think we can’t converge to one standard solution.
>
>
>
> From the POV of the operator, we prefer to the IGP based solution. If
> there is no unsolvable concerns, let’s accept it. I think there is enough
> interests and experts to accomplish this task.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> Aijun Wang
>
> China Telecom
>
>
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