Hi, Greg:

 

Yes. I think so. If we select the “OOB solution“ category, RFC 5883 is one 
existing option,  and has no new connection states introduced within the 
network devices.

The reason that we prefer to the IGP solution is that we want just to relieve 
from the configuration/operational overhead for these “OOB solution” in the 
mentioned scenarios.

 

Best Regards

 

Aijun Wang

China Telecom

 

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 11:06 AM
To: Aijun Wang <[email protected]>
Cc: lsr <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Lsr] How to forward the solutions for "Prefixes Unreachable 
Notification" problem

 

Hi Aijun,

I believe that under Option D you can add multihop BFD per RFC 5883. No new 
protols needed.

 

Regards, 

Greg

 

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 18:17 Aijun Wang <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hi, All:

 

As Peter’s example and Acee’s suggestions, let’s focus on the following problem 
to think how to solve it efficiently and reasonably:

Scenario: 100 areas each with 1000 PEs (100K total PEs) with 2 ABRs per area

Problem: Overlay services(BGP or Tunnel) that rely on the IGP needs to be 
notified immediately when the remote Peer failed, to assist such overlay 
service accomplish fast switchover(how to switchover is out of the discussion)

Potential Solutions:

   There are now mainly four categories of the solutions, as described below 
and their brief analysis:

   Category A: PUA/PULSE. Utilizes the existing IGP mechanism to 
transport/flooding the notification message.

   Category B: Detail/Important Prefixes Leaks. Bypass the summary side-effect 
for some detailed/important prefixes by leaking/not summarize them into each 
area.

   Category C: BGP based solution: Utilize the existing BGP infrastructure to 
transport the notification message 

   Category D: OOB Solution. Design some new OOB protocol to transport the 
notification message.

 

Because we are in LSR WG, and people are all IGP experts. After the intense 
discussion, can we now focus on the Category A/B?

It is very curious that LSR WG will and should produce some BGP or OOB based 
solution. I think they may be feasible, but should be evaluated/discussed by 
other WGs.

Or else, I think we can’t converge to one standard solution.

 

>From the POV of the operator, we prefer to the IGP based solution. If there is 
>no unsolvable concerns, let’s accept it. I think there is enough interests and 
>experts to accomplish this task.

 

Best Regards

 

Aijun Wang

China Telecom

 

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