Hi all,

I suggest that we all agree to disagree.

Since we cannot make progress, we simply drop all proposals, adopt none of 
them, and give up.

Tony


> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Aijun Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
>  
> As Peter’s example and Acee’s suggestions, let’s focus on the following 
> problem to think how to solve it efficiently and reasonably:
> Scenario: 100 areas each with 1000 PEs (100K total PEs) with 2 ABRs per area
> Problem: Overlay services(BGP or Tunnel) that rely on the IGP needs to be 
> notified immediately when the remote Peer failed, to assist such overlay 
> service accomplish fast switchover(how to switchover is out of the discussion)
> Potential Solutions:
>    There are now mainly four categories of the solutions, as described below 
> and their brief analysis:
>    Category A: PUA/PULSE. Utilizes the existing IGP mechanism to 
> transport/flooding the notification message.
>    Category B: Detail/Important Prefixes Leaks. Bypass the summary 
> side-effect for some detailed/important prefixes by leaking/not summarize 
> them into each area.
>    Category C: BGP based solution: Utilize the existing BGP infrastructure to 
> transport the notification message 
>    Category D: OOB Solution. Design some new OOB protocol to transport the 
> notification message.
>  
> Because we are in LSR WG, and people are all IGP experts. After the intense 
> discussion, can we now focus on the Category A/B?
> It is very curious that LSR WG will and should produce some BGP or OOB based 
> solution. I think they may be feasible, but should be evaluated/discussed by 
> other WGs.
> Or else, I think we can’t converge to one standard solution.
>  
> From the POV of the operator, we prefer to the IGP based solution. If there 
> is no unsolvable concerns, let’s accept it. I think there is enough interests 
> and experts to accomplish this task.
>  
> Best Regards
>  
> Aijun Wang
> China Telecom
>  
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