> there is no such thing.

By far away ABR I mean ABR far away from failing PE connecting local are to
the area 0. There can be number of P routers in between.

Let me provide you with an illustration:

PE can be in Honolulu. ABR in Huston. All in one area. For me this ABR is
far away from PE.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 11:35 AM Peter Psenak <ppse...@cisco.com> wrote:

> Robert,
>
> On 07/07/2022 11:25, Robert Raszuk wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> >  > Section 4:
> >  >
> >  > "The intent of UPA is to provide an event driven signal of the
> >   > transition of a destination from reachable to unreachable."
> >
> > That is too vague.
>
> it's all that is needed.
>
> >
> > I am asking how you detect that transition on a far away ABR.
>
> there is no such thing. The detection is done based on the prefix
> transition from reachable to unreachabile in a local area by local ABRs.
> Remote ABRs just propagate the UPA.
>
> thanks,
> Peter
>
> >
> > For example, are you tracking flooding on all links to subject PE from
> > all its neighbours and only when all of them remove that link from
> > topology you signal PUA ?
> >
> > If so practically such trigger may be pretty slow and inconsistent as in
> > real networks as links over which PEs are connected are often of a
> > very different quality, coming from different carriers and may have for
> > stability varying BFD timers. So here you would have to wait for the
> > slowest link to be detected on the neighbouring P router as down.
> >
> > Thx,
> > R.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 10:16 AM Peter Psenak <ppse...@cisco.com
> > <mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Robert,
> >
> >     On 06/07/2022 15:07, Robert Raszuk wrote:
> >      > Hi Peter,
> >      >
> >      > Can you please point me in the draft
> >      >
> >
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-00.txt
> >     <
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-00.txt
> >
> >
> >      >
> >     <
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-00.txt
> >     <
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-00.txt
> >>
> >
> >      > to some section which specifies based on exactly what network
> >     flooding
> >      > changes UPA will be generated by ABRs ?
> >
> >     Section 4:
> >
> >     "The intent of UPA is to provide an event driven signal of the
> >        transition of a destination from reachable to unreachable."
> >      >
> >      > I think such text is not an implementation detail, but it is
> >     critical
> >      > for mix vendor interoperability.
> >      >
> >      > Can UPA also be generated by P node(s) ?
> >
> >     only if they are ABRs or ASBRs.
> >
> >
> >      >
> >      > Specifically I was looking to find some information on how do you
> >      > achieve assurance that UPA really needs to be generated when using
> >      > various vendor's nodes with very different flooding behaviours
> >     and when
> >      > subjects PEs may have a number of different links each with
> >     different
> >      > node/link down detection timer ?
> >
> >     sorry, I don't understand the above.
> >
> >     thanks,
> >     Peter
> >
> >      >
> >      > Many thx,
> >      > R.
> >      >
> >
>
>
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