On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:58:27PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A terminal, like any PC, has at least two kinds of RAM: internal
> memory and video memory. They each serve different purposes.
> 
> If a terminal solely acts as a terminal then it only needs an amount
> of internal memory that accomodates for the kernel and a RAM disk.
> Usually 16-24 Mb will suffice. Please remember that all applications
> run on the server.
> 
> If you want or need high resolutions with lots of colors on such a
> terminal then you have to add more memory to the video card. That
> kind of RAM is solely used to store video output.
> 
> On the other hand, if (and *only* if !) you decide to run so called
> *local* applications then you will need lots of internal memory in
> your terminal. That's because a *local* application is transferred
> over to the terminal and executed there.
> 
> IMHO that kinda sums it up.

I must be missing the place where you account for the RAM X requires
(and I'm not talking about just the fb like you suggest).

Please remember that X runs on the terminal.

Besides, I have presented proof of memory usage, not some false
assumption like you have done.

> On 05-Feb-03 Cameron Lerch wrote:
> > I would suggest more RAM. This completely depends on what you're
> > doing,
> > but for comparison purposes: I use P133 machines with 48MB ram and
> > an
> > 8mb PCI video card. I run them at 1024x768/16 bit in a Gnome 1 
> > environment. I have s/w glx enabled, and use TTFs which are
> > provided
> > through XFS running on the server. I use gimp, StarOffice, mplayer,
> > etc. I have found that memory gets low very often, and have since
> > had
> > to create some swap to solve lockup problems (NFS swap is slow, so
> > it
> > should be avoided). On one of the machines, I ended up taking out
> > the
> > 48MB and put 80MB in instead, and it now appears to be running much
> > better.
> > 
> > X4 uses a lot of memory (especially if you're running at a decent
> > resolution with glx, ttf, etc). I would say that most workstation
> > memory estimates I've seen are a little low for a full blown
> > desktop.
> > 
> >> Yes, your *old* Pentium will make for an excellent workstation.
> >> 
> >> <nutshell>
> >> At first, leave it as it is. If it hasn't got a NIC already then
> >> just
> >> plug in a spare one. Download the appropriate boot image for the
> >> NIC
> >> from rom-o-matic and write it onto a floppy. Setup a Linux distro
> >> and
> >> configure LTSP on it as per the documentation. Boot your Pentium
> >> from
> >> the floppy and ... enjoy LTSP. If everything works to your
> >> satisfaction then remove the HD and the CD drive from the
> >> workstation. If the NIC in your Pentium has room for a boot EEPROM
> >> then return to rom-o-matic and download the appropriate image.
> >> Have
> >> that burned into an EEPROM and plug it into the NIC. Your Pentium
> >> should boot from the code in the EEPROM without the presence of
> >> any
> >> floppy. Which makes the floppy drive redundant too. Et voila,
> >> there's
> >> your *diskless* workstation.
> >> </nutshell>
> >> 
> >> Success
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 31-Jan-03 ricarte m. lapuz wrote:A
> >> > Greetings!
> >> > 
> >> > We would like to ask for your help regarding our problem 
> >> > if it's possible and how to migrate our old PCs into a 
> >> > diskless workstation. Here are some specs about our old 
> >> > PCs:
> >> > 
> >> >     Processor: Pentium 133
> >> >     Memory:    32 MB
> >> >     Video Card RAM: 4 MB
> >> > 
> >> > We will appreciate your immediate response regarding our 
> >> > problem.
> >> > 
> >> > Thank you very much.
> >> > 
> >> > Ric 
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> >> Wouter DeBacker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >> 03-Feb-03    22:10:01    (SuSE Linux Xfmail)
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> 05-Feb-03    13:58:27    (SuSE Linux Xfmail)
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